No. 5 Mk.1 Bayonet
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Topic: No. 5 Mk.1 Bayonet
Posted By: Rockycoyote
Subject: No. 5 Mk.1 Bayonet
Date Posted: January 19 2007 at 3:38am
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I have been wanting one of these for a while. But they are not the most abundant. Well I got one now! It was made by Poole I think (P) in '46 and it has broad head arrow markings on many of the components. My question, How can I cleanup the scales on it without causing any dammage. Second question, I've read that the #5 bayonet was also considered a fighting knife. Would putting a bit of an edge on it detract from its value?
Thanks ------------- Type 99 Arisaka Steyr model 95 No5MK1 WASR-3 (.223 AK) Bushy HBAR Rem 700 6mm rem Walther P1 Mosin Nagant 91/30 |
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Posted By: allan
Date Posted: January 19 2007 at 3:44am
i have read with the p07's that they left them blunt so's to do more damage.. i dunno i thought somethin half a meter long would still do it sharp or blunt...with ya #5 id say (my opinion) mate if it hasnt got an edge..leave it the way it is...historically speaking.------------- 'SAVIOUR OF OUR SKIES BOYO!' |
Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: January 19 2007 at 8:38am
| ill second that , it is best to leave it , besides its safer when your friends come over and handle them - trust me on this one , i handled a friends fathers marine Kbar when i was a kid [about 1958] - took three stiches to close |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: January 19 2007 at 3:25pm
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From a historical standpoint (one of my girlfriends has a son that is a Museum curator) leave it the way it is!!!Unless it is in dire condition.Can you post a pic?
Hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: Tony
Date Posted: January 19 2007 at 5:14pm
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one of my girlfriends has a son that is a Museum curator
She met you when she was helping out dusting the other relics Hoadie?  ------------- Rottie (PitBulls dad.) “If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons Born free taxed to death!!! |
Posted By: Rockycoyote
Date Posted: January 20 2007 at 12:28am
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I'll see if I can put one on this evening after work.
Matt ------------- Type 99 Arisaka Steyr model 95 No5MK1 WASR-3 (.223 AK) Bushy HBAR Rem 700 6mm rem Walther P1 Mosin Nagant 91/30 |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: January 20 2007 at 2:04am
Naw mate - her son was on a dig @ Vimy Ridge & brought me back as a battlefield pick up!!  Anything ELSE ya wanna pick at? 
Hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Tony wrote:Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: January 20 2007 at 3:12am
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as long as they dont start applying that preservation wax treatment you probably are OK , but if they move you to that storage area where they keep the nondisplayables id figure it was over
my poole is a 47 - matches my rifle 10/47 , third from left
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Posted By: Rockycoyote
Date Posted: January 20 2007 at 7:46am
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I'll give this another try here. The blade has some pitting But its 60+ years old. I would like to clean the scales a bit. Pardon my pics there not the greatest. ------------- Type 99 Arisaka Steyr model 95 No5MK1 WASR-3 (.223 AK) Bushy HBAR Rem 700 6mm rem Walther P1 Mosin Nagant 91/30 |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: January 20 2007 at 2:59pm
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I'll have Derek look @ ur pics if ya want..but I'd leave well enough alone.Just a tad of oil now & then - worked in real well. Whaty shape is your scabbard?
Hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: allan
Date Posted: January 20 2007 at 3:07pm
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what kinda oil you recommend using on the bayos hoadie? ------------- 'SAVIOUR OF OUR SKIES BOYO!' |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: January 20 2007 at 3:27pm
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I'd use that "DEEP LUBE" I told ya about a while back, but you can't get it Al..& the rotten commies wont let me send ya any!!!
Hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: January 20 2007 at 3:32pm
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Speaking of BAYOS..I wonder how CHACH made out with his E-Bay purchase?
Hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: allan
Date Posted: January 20 2007 at 4:21pm
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yep..cant get it...i use wd40..hope chach didnt click on the mouse button too much ------------- 'SAVIOUR OF OUR SKIES BOYO!' |
Posted By: Rockycoyote
Date Posted: January 21 2007 at 11:40am
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I'll try taking some better pics of the bayonet in the mourning at work. I think it probably has better light. The scabbard looks good, I took it appart and cleaned and oiled it. A bit of light rust and most of the painted finish is gone but no dents. ------------- Type 99 Arisaka Steyr model 95 No5MK1 WASR-3 (.223 AK) Bushy HBAR Rem 700 6mm rem Walther P1 Mosin Nagant 91/30 |
Posted By: Chach VonChach
Date Posted: January 21 2007 at 8:34pm
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I got my bayo a few days ago.... i was getting worried, cuz i hadn't heard from the seller since the bidding closed. But it showed up in the mail anyhow. right on time actually. It's really in great condition! and it fits, hah! Now my rifle feels more like some kind of lance or spear. 17" of steel on the end makes me feel like i'm in that movie Zulu with Michael Caine. Yeah! (P.S. I know neither the Enfield Mk III or the 1907 Bayonet were used in that movie.) |
Posted By: allan
Date Posted: January 21 2007 at 8:39pm
you should see a mosin with bayo fitted mate...its like tryin to hold onto a giraffe by the neck ------------- 'SAVIOUR OF OUR SKIES BOYO!' |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: January 22 2007 at 7:53am
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Hey Chach..your wrong Mate! They WERE used in the movie!! They were hopin we wouldn't notice.If you have a copy of it - play it.Go to slow motion toward the end, during the last skirmish before the final redout.There you will see some of the actors actually ARE using Lee Enfields!!
Hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: Rockycoyote
Date Posted: January 22 2007 at 8:39am
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------------- Type 99 Arisaka Steyr model 95 No5MK1 WASR-3 (.223 AK) Bushy HBAR Rem 700 6mm rem Walther P1 Mosin Nagant 91/30 |
Posted By: allan
Date Posted: January 22 2007 at 9:58am
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nice bayo mate...hey... what the hell is that white stuff in the back of ya ute!!!!!!!! AAAAARRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!
al -holding his 2 index fingers up in the shape of a cross. ------------- 'SAVIOUR OF OUR SKIES BOYO!' |
Posted By: Rockycoyote
Date Posted: January 22 2007 at 10:27am
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Ya, It's been like an icebox here for a couple of weeks.
The snow's good for the drought but the cold, not all that great. ------------- Type 99 Arisaka Steyr model 95 No5MK1 WASR-3 (.223 AK) Bushy HBAR Rem 700 6mm rem Walther P1 Mosin Nagant 91/30 |
Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: January 22 2007 at 9:33pm
| thats a nice looking bayo , maybe a touch to the scabord with 4ought wool soaked in oil - DO NOT SCRUB iot will take off the rust without ruining the finish , but basicly a decent set and the cost depends on your desire to own , ive paid too much for a couple i really wanted but gotten a few for free and that equals it all out |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: January 24 2007 at 11:59am
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Rockycoyote: I had dereck look @ ur photos.(The curator) He even taught me some new stuff..listen up.HJe says the ONLY things U should remove are:dust, dirt. & even then -carefully. He says u should NOT use oils on the blade(new to me!) You should only use Isopropol Alchol. It wont rust.If youv got you bayo in a resonably temperate place-it wont rust.He also says NOT to remove any paint that my be on it from the Armoury.These things WILL decrease the value from a collector's standpoint.And UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES do you sharpen it!!!That devalues, & it will invite rust, & it alters the size.
There you have it mate.Right from a curator! Hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: Rockycoyote
Date Posted: January 24 2007 at 1:32pm
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Thanks Hoadie! I'll leave it alone. No sharpening or anything abrasive. I agree, I figured oiling was a no brainer? Many thanks!
Rockycoyote ------------- Type 99 Arisaka Steyr model 95 No5MK1 WASR-3 (.223 AK) Bushy HBAR Rem 700 6mm rem Walther P1 Mosin Nagant 91/30 |
Posted By: allan
Date Posted: January 24 2007 at 8:40pm
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good to hear my own paranoiya was correct...no sharpening..
i always felt this was defacing the bayo..if it wasnt sharp issued or by the bloke issued to..its best left alone. ------------- 'SAVIOUR OF OUR SKIES BOYO!' |
Posted By: allan
Date Posted: January 27 2007 at 6:03pm
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hey hoadie can you ask dereck what he knows about the k98 "stealth bayos", ie made under wraps before ww2..ill post pics via mail mate...see what he can come up with.no no waffen stamp..no makers marks... ------------- 'SAVIOUR OF OUR SKIES BOYO!' |
Posted By: White Rhino
Date Posted: January 28 2007 at 9:51am
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Yea I know what yall mean, i won a bayo sight unseen in an auction in Savanna GA. it had been run on a bench grinder. I was very disapointed. ------------- "White Rhino" "Everybody's got to believe in something. I believe I'll have another beer." --W. C. Fields |
Posted By: Cookie Monster
Date Posted: January 28 2007 at 12:08pm
yep Rhino had some idiot send me a ruined one as well I blew a head gasket. he made it right sent me the correct one.
CM
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Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: February 05 2007 at 11:17am
| sounds like very good advice , i was about to sugest mineral spirits for the grip scales followed by multiple thin coats of BLO but i will defer to 'the curator' as the value in these is best preserved - 'they aint makin them anymore' |