ID marks any ideas
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Topic: ID marks any ideas
Posted By: UK trigger
Subject: ID marks any ideas
Date Posted: April 06 2016 at 12:37pm
 
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Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: April 06 2016 at 5:43pm
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M47 is BSA but there looks to be more going on there i cannot make out that squiggle below the number , prefix AG is a 1943 Maltby serial number , so im saying its more likely that , the 4 7 must mean something else in this case
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Posted By: Pukka Bundook
Date Posted: April 06 2016 at 6:35pm
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A Square, To me it looks like a BSA, with the Maltby No as an afterthought. I Think Maltby were still putting serial # on barrels then as well. I wonder if that number below the electric pencil Maltby number is part of an old BSA number?? Any serial number on the barrel Trigger??
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Posted By: UK trigger
Date Posted: April 07 2016 at 12:05am
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Thanks for the comments' I'll have a look what else i can find' someone on the forum said its like unraveling a puzzle ''its true never realised there could be so much to enfield ownership Cheers Gary |
Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: April 07 2016 at 3:42pm
| that could certainly be a possibility , definitely something looking like a stacked rifle stamped below the date as well , and do i not see A * C above on the receiver ? |
Posted By: UK trigger
Date Posted: April 09 2016 at 1:46am
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Hi guys, A Square what does the term stacked rifle mean ,could It have been a BSA rifle that's been worked on by Maltby at later Time in its life 1947? |
Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: April 09 2016 at 7:16pm
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BSA used what looks like a tee pee of rifles on their commercial rifles and colonial trade rifles , i think they put it on rifles that were sported too , but im no expert in this area - someone wiser than i will come along to enlighten , i just thought the marking i cannot see well looked like that , i see no reason a rifle manufactured by one could not have been rerworked by the other at some point in time ,
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Posted By: UK trigger
Date Posted: April 10 2016 at 6:19pm
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Posted By: UK trigger
Date Posted: April 10 2016 at 7:16pm
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Posted By: UK trigger
Date Posted: April 10 2016 at 7:18pm
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Posted By: UK trigger
Date Posted: April 10 2016 at 7:20pm
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Posted By: UK trigger
Date Posted: April 10 2016 at 7:23pm
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Posted By: UK trigger
Date Posted: April 10 2016 at 7:25pm
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Posted By: UK trigger
Date Posted: April 10 2016 at 7:26pm
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Posted By: UK trigger
Date Posted: April 10 2016 at 7:29pm
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Posted By: UK trigger
Date Posted: April 10 2016 at 7:30pm
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Posted By: UK trigger
Date Posted: April 10 2016 at 7:35pm
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Hi,few more pics anyone has any more ideas to its history that would be great. Cheers Gary |
Posted By: Pukka Bundook
Date Posted: April 10 2016 at 8:07pm
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Bantam length buttstock, (On second look, is that an S for Savage rather than a 'B'??) Front band made by Viners Ltd, Sheffield, If I go back & look at your photos again, I'll lose the bit I've written. That's what comes of me not planning ahead! 1943 barrel, and that's about it by what I can make out. I'm sure I will have missed a lot though! Richard. |
Posted By: UK trigger
Date Posted: April 10 2016 at 9:42pm
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Richard thanks for your input, Cheers Gary |
Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: April 11 2016 at 5:20am
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I think the stamps for stock length are on the top rear of the stock, not under the wrist. ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: Pukka Bundook
Date Posted: April 11 2016 at 6:37am
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You are quite right Shamu. I seem to be getting a lot wrong these days! Case of not thinking. |
Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: April 11 2016 at 8:28am
Its OlodTimersDisease (CRS), I suffer from it too! ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: April 11 2016 at 8:57am
Can not rememeber stuff? ------------- Always looking for military manuals, Dodge M37 items,books on Berlin Germany, old atlases ( before 1946) , military maps of Scotland. English and Canadian gun parts. |
Shamu wrote:Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: April 11 2016 at 1:04pm
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Close! Can't Remember s#1t.  ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: April 11 2016 at 1:08pm
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remember WHAT stuff? ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: April 11 2016 at 1:11pm
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Looks like a scrubbed & renumbered Beezer (BSA) to me. ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: Zed
Date Posted: April 11 2016 at 1:35pm
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I think it's a bit odd that the bolt number is stamped and the number on the wrist is obviously electro penciled. As if they've re-numbered the rifle to suit the bolt! Maybe one of our more knowledgeable member's has an explanation! ------------- It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice! |
Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: April 12 2016 at 6:52am
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I'm thinking maybe an Indian "FR" repair scrubbed & renumbered. IIRC don't the markings usually get stamped on the bolt side of the receiver wrist? Is there an FR stamp somewhere or even an "Ishy Screw"? ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: April 12 2016 at 6:13pm
| OK - the marking under the "3" of the date is not the piled rifle mark of BSA , but it does not really make a difference here , this still looks like a BSA/Maltby rifle meaning those two facilities had touched it as far as i am concerned , unless there is a 'sporting' element we do not see anymore , |
Posted By: UK trigger
Date Posted: April 17 2016 at 10:54am
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On the range tommorow taking it out to 200m Iron sights and old eyes lol , I'll take the gun down And have a close look for more markings Thanks guys for your intrest and help |