Is This Worth It? (No1 Mk3)
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Topic: Is This Worth It? (No1 Mk3)
Posted By: NuserAim
Subject: Is This Worth It? (No1 Mk3)
Date Posted: April 24 2018 at 12:53pm
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Hey guys, I am new to the forum and to collecting in general. I have always wanted an SMLE really badly, specifically one from around WW1. I found a seller that sounds promising What do you guys think of this: It's a 1916 with an peddle scheme SSA reciever. The receiver has been drilled on the top for a sight, which is slightly upsetting. Only the receiver and barrel match, as this was rebuilt from a barreled receiver bought later. Full stock not sporterized. Apparently shoots well. Asking price is $300 + $100 for a 1907 pattern bayonet. I was hoping to talk him down to $300 total. What do you guys think? |
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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: April 24 2018 at 1:57pm
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Borderline. The bolt not matching is a red flag, as are the drilled holes. Can you get a couple of pics? ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: Bear43
Date Posted: April 24 2018 at 2:27pm
| If you can talk him down to $300 total it would be okay. Still a bit high with a drilled receiver but not severely so since the SSA marked receivers demand a premium in any condition lately. Big question is what maker is the bayonet? |
Posted By: NuserAim
Date Posted: April 24 2018 at 2:36pm
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Only pics I have https://m.imgur.com/qs6s1DT" rel="nofollow - https://m.imgur.com/qs6s1DT https://m.imgur.com/mRNiIzj" rel="nofollow - https://m.imgur.com/mRNiIzj https://m.imgur.com/XoRuAJD" rel="nofollow - https://m.imgur.com/XoRuAJD |
Posted By: NuserAim
Date Posted: April 24 2018 at 2:37pm
| Sanderson. Has scabbard as well. |
Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: April 24 2018 at 4:10pm
| i agree shamu & bear , the SSA receivers are rarer , ive yet to find a nice example , i too wonder at the bayo mfgr , |
Posted By: Bear43
Date Posted: April 24 2018 at 5:23pm
| One day I want to add an SSA and NRF to the collection but they don't come up often and when they do they are in poor condition with a crazy price tag. One day.... |
Posted By: NuserAim
Date Posted: April 24 2018 at 6:22pm
| My replies aren't being approved. Is this normal? |
Posted By: Eric
Date Posted: April 24 2018 at 11:51pm
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NuserAim, All new members have a 20 post limit before being allowed to post without approval. Sorry for the inconvenience, but we have had to deal with a lot of spammers and found this to be the only way to remedy that problem. Eric
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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: April 25 2018 at 5:00am
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Nauser; What claims does the seller have about the rifiling? ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: April 25 2018 at 5:35am
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Where are these screw holes? I don't see them on the images? ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: NuserAim
Date Posted: April 25 2018 at 6:05am
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hoadie wrote:Posted By: NuserAim
Date Posted: April 25 2018 at 6:07am
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Posted By: Bear43
Date Posted: April 25 2018 at 6:17am
| Something I don't like is how the striker fits in the cocking piece. The end of the striker should be close to flush with the back of the cocking piece and here it is screwed out quite a ways. |
Posted By: NuserAim
Date Posted: April 25 2018 at 8:03am
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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: April 25 2018 at 8:24am
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That is screwed in a long way! How is the lock screw even bearing on it? Is it fixable, sure worst case you replace the cocking piece & the firing pin & fit for correct protrusion. ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: NuserAim
Date Posted: April 25 2018 at 6:24pm
 ) Also kinda looks like a type D I found online.
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Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: April 25 2018 at 6:31pm
| "..One day I want to add an SSA and NRF to the collection but they don't come up often and when they do they are in poor condition with a crazy price tag. One day...." me too - i found my dispersal early on but these have alluded me in good enough condition to but , also atill looking for that mkVI too |
Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: April 25 2018 at 6:41pm
| The one Enfield I definitely wouldn't mind spending a little money on would be a trials rifle. |
Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: April 25 2018 at 6:48pm
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the mkV ? they show up from time to time , there were 20K of these produced , it is a fact that lots got issued after dunkirk to resupply , but i know of some excellent examples and save for the coin in mine where the marking disc belongs she is complete and correct , the mkVI is actually a transitional rifle , there are not so many of those to find , these are forerunner of the no4 with little changes like the stock checkering to give them away ,
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Posted By: NuserAim
Date Posted: April 25 2018 at 6:53pm
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Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: April 25 2018 at 7:25pm
Nice. 
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Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: April 25 2018 at 7:26pm
| Hey. Let know when I can come get that from you okay. |
Posted By: Zed
Date Posted: April 30 2018 at 1:43pm
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Looking at the photo of the cocking piece; I assume the tip of the firing pin has been reworked and the pin has been unscrewed one thread to make up the lost material. Best to replace the firing pin. ------------- It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice! |
Posted By: NuserAim
Date Posted: April 30 2018 at 1:56pm
| Update: Drove two hours after having set up this meet a week in advance to only learn that the dude flaked. He never showed up. I had to drive two hours home empty-handed. |
Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: April 30 2018 at 3:58pm
He may have done you a favor. ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: NuserAim
Date Posted: April 30 2018 at 8:54pm
| Yeah probably. Still having a hard time finding a WW1 era SMLE in a decent price range |
Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: May 01 2018 at 7:07pm
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"Slightly off topic, but I'd like to see pics of some others' favorite enfields in their collection if you guys have linked them in the past somewhere." i dont have much anymore after photobucket crashes -   |
Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: May 01 2018 at 8:57pm
This is my small ensemble... 
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Posted By: Cottage Hill Bill
Date Posted: May 03 2018 at 7:43am
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See this thread about using a mismatched bolt that has not been properly set up to the receiver. It is not anywhere near as simple as just sticking any old bolt in an heading off to the range. https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=64551&p=430068#post430068" rel="nofollow - https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=64551&p=430068#post430068
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Posted By: NuserAim
Date Posted: May 03 2018 at 12:49pm
| Those bottom two are nice. What do you guys think about FTR rifles? Have the opportunity to buy one for 500. |
Posted By: NuserAim
Date Posted: May 03 2018 at 4:30pm
| Thanks for that link Bill! This completely changed the way I look at these rifles. A couple hundred bucks is definitely not worth a lifetime without half my face. |
Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: May 04 2018 at 5:47am
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There's nothing wrong with an FTR rifle. Its a factory rebuild to like new specs. ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: NuserAim
Date Posted: May 04 2018 at 6:36am
| Some people were telling me it devalued the rifle though, but I personally think having it looked over that meticulously would at the very least make it a safer shooter. |
Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: May 04 2018 at 6:44am
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In all honesty you'll be lucky to find a WW1 SMLE that Isn't FTR'd! I'd ignore daft talk like that, perhaps for a newer, late WW2 gun, but not for an antique. ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: May 04 2018 at 11:25am
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I don't believe mine was.(1916 BSA) ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: May 04 2018 at 1:23pm
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Wow, that's a keeper. ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: May 04 2018 at 1:31pm
The rifle just above the pistol in those last two photos is a 1944 Maltby made No4 Mk1,FTR to a No4 Mk1/2 in 1952. Nothing wrong with it, actually made slightly better due to the consistent trigger pull now... |
Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: May 04 2018 at 6:57pm
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FTR does not devalue the rifle - it brings it back to original spec , it might limit collectibility only because the original worn out parts were replaced by factory standard items , in essence you get a rifle just like out of the factory - no loss of quality at all ,
i have three FTRs , one is a no4 mkI/2 , one is a nkI*/3 , and one is a mkI-longbranch /2 [which is kinda special because they only made the mkI for a short time ...its a rare one ,
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