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The Faux L39A1,,,maybe.

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Topic: The Faux L39A1,,,maybe.
Posted By: Goosic
Subject: The Faux L39A1,,,maybe.
Date Posted: February 03 2019 at 4:23pm
I did not get the No8 fore end and upper handguard.  I did manage to acquire the butt stock. I have a Mk2 fore end and upper handguard. So far I have only removed 1/4" of wood from the handguard.  I definitely removed alot of wood from the fore end. It looks okay,so far,I think. 



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Posted By: Stanforth
Date Posted: February 04 2019 at 12:35am
I believe that a L39A1 would have had the service style butt stock. The Envoy had the pistol grip type.

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Posted By: terrylee
Date Posted: February 04 2019 at 1:55am
Although I prefer Stanforth's option,  I get the impression that the choice of butt stock was very much up to the owner. I have seen both combinations.  Actually, my Envoy came with a service type butt and my L39 with the pistol grip.


Posted By: Zed
Date Posted: February 04 2019 at 3:59am

Mine has the normal butt stock to which a cheek piece has been added at some time. It also has the front sight blade storage cap fitted to the underside which I believe is standard.


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Posted By: Stanforth
Date Posted: February 04 2019 at 9:45am
I thought that the L39A1 was a rifle made for target shooting within the armed forces and had the service butt whereas that the Envoy was for the civilian market and had the pistol grip stock and a higher quality finish. The Enforcer was for Police Marksmen and had a Mote Carlo stock.
 
I wait to be corrected.Embarrassed


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Posted By: terrylee
Date Posted: February 04 2019 at 11:57am
For those who are interested, I refer you to Page 513 of Skennerton's The Lee Enfield, 2007. It covers the L39A1 and features a photo of one in the MOD Pattern Room. The butt of the rifle concerned has a pistol grip. My other reference material shows examples with both types of butt. 


Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: February 04 2019 at 12:04pm
I like the idea of creating a civilian version.  I do have a regular butt stock with a cheek riser on it so,it can go either way. Still waiting on some extra miscellaneous items...


Posted By: Zed
Date Posted: February 04 2019 at 12:05pm
Stanforth, I believe you are basically correct. But as with all thing's Enfield; there seem to be a few exceptions. I have seen L39's for sale with the Envoy type butt stock. Whether they have been changed after production, I couldn't say.
They are a great rifle though; whatever they're fitted with.

I'll have to check out my Skennerton! thanks Terry Lee


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Posted By: Zed
Date Posted: February 04 2019 at 12:14pm
Goosic, how are you going to sort out the front(mid) band? The originals appear cut just in front of the band on the lower fore end; with the upper rear being modified to extend just in front.

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Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: February 04 2019 at 2:32pm
I honestly haven't thought that far out yet. I have a No8 barrel band.  I'm just going to make some measurements  and gradually start removing wood until the notch looks right.


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: February 04 2019 at 2:37pm
Looking at No4 & L39 pics side by side it seems that they simply chopped off whatever they didn't want?
Maybe a No4 band with a bit of fitting will do the trick?
We have some on here with both who might be able to do comparisons for you?


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Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: February 04 2019 at 3:27pm
The faux L39A (in .303) had acslot the furniture cut out so a No4 barrel band fit. There is maybe 3/8" of wood protruding?


Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: February 04 2019 at 4:21pm
I'm not quite understanding the question HT. I am currently  waiting on a No8 barrel band to show up before I start cutting away any wood. I did make a locating mark where the cutting will be.


Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: February 04 2019 at 4:44pm
Goosic. There was no question. My faux L39A has a No4 barrel band pretty much where your contemplating fitting yours!



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