7.62x51 stripper clips
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Forum Name: Ishapore Enfields
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Topic: 7.62x51 stripper clips
Posted By: Frameman 1
Subject: 7.62x51 stripper clips
Date Posted: August 02 2019 at 4:03pm
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he!!o all, New guy here. I have read all the advice I could stomach except for this forum. Please be gentle on me. I’m trying to get good advice regarding stripper clips for my 7.62x51 Ish. Any help will be welcome. |
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Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: August 02 2019 at 7:24pm
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he!!o and welcome from Phoenix Arizona. A very interesting question that I actually needed an answer to as well. The only thing I am aware of now is that the original. 303 (charger clips) can be used to (charge) your Ishapore 2A1. I very recently converted a No5MkI to fire the 7.62x51 NATO cartridge and the thought never occurred to me to see if I can (charge) the rifle with the original (charging clips). The answer is a resounding yes. Unless someone else here can disprove my next comment, it is of my opinion that they never made a specific (charger clip) for the 7.62mm. I honestly believe they used the charging clips for either or. The only thing these pictures do not show is me thumbing all five rounds into the magazine. I did,and no issues arose...  ...   |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: August 02 2019 at 7:27pm
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Welcome. First off, they ARE NOT " Stripper Clips"  They are "CHARGERS".& the thingy that holds the ammo is a "MAGAZINE". Now- with that out of the way..what is it your looking for specifically?  ..& we'd like to see your "Ishapore" if you can post a pic or two ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: August 02 2019 at 7:28pm
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The reply from Goosic came whilst I was typing..ergo I didn't see it until after posting ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: August 02 2019 at 7:38pm
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That is why I kept putting parentheses around charger/charging clips. Figured someone would jump on that...
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Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: August 02 2019 at 8:04pm
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See if I did this correctly. Trying to post a short video of me charging the No5MkI with 7.62mm in an original. 303 charging clip. https://youtu.be/4tKSY-NbYwU" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/4tKSY-NbYwU
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Posted By: Frameman 1
Date Posted: August 03 2019 at 2:07am
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I stand corrected. Specific nomenclature aside. I appreciate your responses. Where can the 303 Chargers be obtained? Picture will be posted soon.
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Posted By: Stanforth
Date Posted: August 03 2019 at 4:34am
The only reason I opened this thread was to see how long it was before someone pointed out the 'stripper clip' mistake. ------------- Life.. a sexually transmitted condition that is invariably fatal. |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: August 03 2019 at 4:45am
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Chargers are readily available. BUT..there are many that aren't worth buying. There was an in-depth posting a while back (complete with pics) showing the difference twixt them. IIRC it was Shamu put up the posting. If we are a tad patient..he may re-post that info again. ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: August 03 2019 at 5:11am
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hoadie wrote:Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: August 03 2019 at 5:13am
| Welcome from Brandon Manitoba, Canada. |
Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: August 03 2019 at 6:58am
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Welcome from North Carolina. ------------- Always looking for military manuals, Dodge M37 items,books on Berlin Germany, old atlases ( before 1946) , military maps of Scotland. English and Canadian gun parts. |
Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: August 03 2019 at 7:05am
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Thanks, saves me the trouble of finding it again, & resizing it! Yes avoid the ones with the parkerised finish or round instead of oval holes at the spring. Technically you need Mk 1 (with the slots not holes in the spine) or Mk 4 (preferably with the tear shaped dimples but round is OK. ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: August 03 2019 at 7:08am
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Frameman; As Goosic has posted. Goosic didn't 'splain the difference. but if you look closely, U will note that the "dimples" on the chargers are different. The botton ones have a "dot" type bump...whilst the top have a "tear drop" appaearance. From what has been discussed, the bottom ones aren't worth a fiddler's f*c%. They don't feed properly. Made in India IIRC, & avail on-line very cheaply. ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: englishman_ca
Date Posted: August 03 2019 at 7:42am
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7.62 NATO also came on chargers, but not the same animal as those for the 303. There was an insert for the 303 charger guide to allow the 7.62 chargers to fit. I have some chargers around here from the C1 rifle.    Same clips as those used in M14 or G3. NATO standard. I did have an insert around here a long time ago, cant seem to find it. It is a little sheet steel doo-dad that clips into the mouth of the charger guide. I have seen them around at gun shows in boxes of bits. Nobody seems to recognise them.
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Posted By: englishman_ca
Date Posted: August 03 2019 at 8:17am
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I find that most chargers of all the Mks will work if they are polished internally. The older Brit or Canadian ones with the blued steel are the ones to look for. There is a glut of relatively modern ones made for the Italian Navy. These hit the market with the surplus Italian rifles a few years ago. Most of the Italian chargers are brand new. One can still buy them in the original packing boxes. Problem is that they are grey phosphate finish which is crap, they don't let the rounds slide. Plus, the spring steel that they used is very stiff. You end up with a very tight hard to use charger. They can be polished internally with crocus cloth and tweaked a bit to relieve tension, but best to give then a wide birth and keep looking for the old WWI Mk.IV. The ones with five holes (Mk.III) are WWI circa 1916 and seem to work for me. But probably because they are well worn after charging hundreds of rounds. The dots and the ovals are a manufacturing variation. The ovals were early versions I believe and to me seem to work just as well. A charger collection would be a long time collecting proposition, different marks by dozens of manufacturers. These things must be getting harder to find. People have scrounged from me over the years and I have but a few left. I have seen these things sell for five bucks a piece!
------------- . . Look to your front, mark your target when it comes! |
Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: August 03 2019 at 8:32am
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The tear drop dimples work better with the well-worn charger bridge of my Savage No4 Mk1*. With a better condition bridge I don't think it matters that much. ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: Stanforth
Date Posted: August 03 2019 at 9:00am
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I make a point of only buying used, issued original ones. OK they are getting harder to find and I can only regret the days when I used to buy British Government surplus ammo by the thousand and throw the chargers away. ------------- Life.. a sexually transmitted condition that is invariably fatal. |
Posted By: flatheadsal
Date Posted: August 03 2019 at 11:11am
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there is a guy on the CMP forum selling .303 clips http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=238532 " rel="nofollow - http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=238532 ;
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Posted By: englishman_ca
Date Posted: August 03 2019 at 11:37am
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Frameman, If your Ishapore is a 2A1, it will have been built with the charger bridge set up for the NATO chargers. If you cant find any local (strippers for M14), I'll mail you a couple. ------------- . . Look to your front, mark your target when it comes! |
Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: August 03 2019 at 12:30pm
Swrdish mauser(6.5x 55) clips also work for 7.62 and are readily available. |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: August 03 2019 at 1:31pm
Even the Swedes called them CHARGERS!!  ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: August 03 2019 at 3:52pm
| Gotta love the Swedes! Raw herring, 6.5x55 Swedish. Buddy has a rarish one. 6.5x55 Swede in a Remington 700. Probably 30 years old. Nice rifle. I've seen him shoot lots of deer and anchour a big elk at 200 yards. |
Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: August 03 2019 at 4:05pm
Vid der herdy gerdy blerdi flredi They called them: "Tidskriften laddare"  ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: Frameman 1
Date Posted: August 03 2019 at 4:24pm
 Photo of RFI markings
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Posted By: Frameman 1
Date Posted: August 03 2019 at 4:45pm
More photos 
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Posted By: englishman_ca
Date Posted: August 03 2019 at 5:47pm
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Ya, blooken flooken clippy dink in der charger guide. We can figure this one out for you. Show us the guide from above, if you would.
------------- . . Look to your front, mark your target when it comes! |
Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: August 03 2019 at 7:15pm
Pictures speak a thousand words and I stand corrected...
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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: August 04 2019 at 5:00am
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This is shaping up to be a nice looking rifle ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: Frameman 1
Date Posted: August 04 2019 at 11:11am
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Will this view help? 
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Posted By: Arminius
Date Posted: August 04 2019 at 1:02pm
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THANKS! Didn´t know this … Thanks again, Hermann ------------- Certified gun nut Guns. Also classy Women, good beer and fine wines. Did I mention guns? Lots of guns. A man can never have enough ammunition, books and booze. |
Posted By: englishman_ca
Date Posted: August 04 2019 at 5:18pm
I found a picture of the insert on the net.
The insert is pressed down into position (rubber mallet) and clips into place. Once installed it is not intended to be removed. The rivet is part of the kit, to hold the insert in place, but rarely used as not needed. ------------- . . Look to your front, mark your target when it comes! |
Posted By: englishman_ca
Date Posted: August 04 2019 at 5:40pm
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I found a site out of the UK that has the insert kits. https://thedevizesgunsmith.co.uk/accessories/accessories-service-rifles/" rel="nofollow - https://thedevizesgunsmith.co.uk/accessories/accessories-service-rifles/ Scroll down to stock number A88. ------------- . . Look to your front, mark your target when it comes! |
Posted By: Frameman 1
Date Posted: August 04 2019 at 7:10pm
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Wow Those Brits are proud of these things.$115.00. None for me thanks. Alternatives?
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Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: August 04 2019 at 7:46pm
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fascinating read = so much i might have said but ya all said it before i got here , what a great site , i speant the last four days in wisconsin - a world away and yet right next door , i will never get used to their road designations , but im going back to shoot in a couple weeks ,
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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: August 05 2019 at 6:47am
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They are scarce & hard to find, so its expensive. ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: Frameman 1
Date Posted: August 05 2019 at 9:47am
I’m sure they are but that’s way past my price point. Maybe I’ll just keep hand feeding it.😎
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Posted By: Frameman 1
Date Posted: August 05 2019 at 2:20pm
Ok, I came across a few 303 “ chargers “ ( I’m learning) and they won’t fit the charger bridge slot at all and, too big,. Then I tried a 7.62x39 SKS stripper clip, again to big for my slot. What’s next?
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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: August 05 2019 at 3:00pm
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Maybe the bridge is already set up for 7.62? I just grabbed a .303 charger & a 7.62 stripper clip & compared them, the 7.62 is about 1/16" wider at the sides? ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: Frameman 1
Date Posted: August 05 2019 at 3:04pm
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I believe you are right. I need to be looking for 7.62x51 chargers.
Do you agree?
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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: August 05 2019 at 3:14pm
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Probably! You can check for either 30-06 (Thuddy ought-six) or 7.62 NATO, (they are the same) ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: Frameman 1
Date Posted: August 05 2019 at 4:03pm
| Are stripper clips for 308 the same as 7.62 NATO and 30-06? |
Posted By: englishman_ca
Date Posted: August 05 2019 at 4:30pm
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If your Ishapore is a 2A, it will have been built with the charger bridge set up for the NATO chargers. ------------- . . Look to your front, mark your target when it comes! |
Posted By: Frameman 1
Date Posted: August 05 2019 at 4:50pm
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Mine is in fact a 2A. Are you referring to NATO charger or stripper clips?
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Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: August 05 2019 at 5:20pm
| Frameman 1, PM me and I’ll mail you some 7.62 NATO chargers, I have lots. |
Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: August 06 2019 at 7:11am
Yes. ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: Frameman 1
Date Posted: August 06 2019 at 7:27am
| Confusion now cleared up. |