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Originally posted by britrifles britrifles wrote:

Oh, you’re talking of a Lee Enfield action, not a Lee Enfield rifle.  Big difference. I’m talking about a Lee Enfield rifle, 25 inch barrel, iron sights, a .303 or 7.62.  

Interesting choice of bullets, the 123 Lapua.  That’s a 6.5 mm bullet.  A bit small to shoot in an .303 bore or .300 bore No. 4 barrel. Probably won’t attain much velocity. 

Your earlier post stated you shoot the .303 174 grain bullet out to one mile on a 36 inch target. And you get hits with every pull of the trigger.  
The rifle is still chambered in 303 British and we have used 174grn BTHP bullets sitting on a maximum charge of gunpowder to get the 174grn projectile moving at 2689 averaged FPS and yes, once the owner of the rifle gets it setup accordingly, it will hit the target repeatedly. Lapua makes .3105" 123grn bullets if you did not know this and they will get to the 1 mile mark quite swiftly. The 30" bull barrel helps.
The rifle is stocked no differently than an Enforcer and uses the same mounting points the Enforcer uses for the scope.
The owner of the "Enfield Rifle" stuffed a bunch of money into this to prove that the .303 bullet is accurate out to 1 mile because someone told him that it was impossible. He is a world class BR shooter and his BR rifle is chambered for the 30-416. 
To reiterate.  The UF55 is still chambered in .303. The Krieger barrel looks identical to the L39/42A1 barrels. It is stocked and bedded very similar to the PH regulated Enforcers. It uses a scope...
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If it is chambered for the .303 and the original stock was cutback and inletted to accept the bull barrel it is still an Enfield rifle. 
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Geoff: This gentleman asked me if I knew of anyone that would like to visit his ranch and shoot rifles at extremely long ranges and I thought of you. I openly asked you to PM me for the details. You obviously did not take my offer seriously and you also believe the claim to be a down right lie. To each his own then...
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I’m just trying to understand how you do this Michael.

 I’ve got some of those little Lapua .310 123 grain bullets. It’s got G1 ballistic coefficient of .257 and would need 170 MOA elevation to get it to a mile, that’s if you launch it at 3000 fps. At a mile, its velocity is down to 680 fps and dropping like a rock.  Not sure how I get that much elevation out of a scope.

But, to see this hit a 36 inch target at a mile with every pull of the trigger might be would be worth the trip.  PM coming. 
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Originally posted by britrifles britrifles wrote:

I’m just trying to understand how you do this Michael.

 I’ve got some of those little Lapua .310 123 grain bullets. It’s got G1 ballistic coefficient of .257 and would need 170 MOA elevation to get it to a mile, that’s if you launch it at 3000 fps. At a mile, its velocity is down to 680 fps and dropping like a rock.  Not sure how I get that much elevation out of a scope.

But, to see this hit a 36 inch target at a mile with every pull of the trigger might be would be worth the trip.  PM coming. 





Zero the scope as far out as you can and then use the MilDot's as a range finder to get you the rest if the way to the target...
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I think I missed something Goosic! 
I was under the impression from earlier posts that you were shooting your "Frenchie" at 1000 yards and out to a mile and beyond. But now your saying it's someone else using a spécial build.  
I'm a bit confused! 
But anyway; I would love to see a photo of that rig. If the Krieger barrel is same  size as the L42/ L39, then it may be a good option for my 39 when the time comes to replace it.
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Originally posted by Zed Zed wrote:

I think I missed something Goosic! 
I was under the impression from earlier posts that you were shooting your "Frenchie" at 1000 yards and out to a mile and beyond. But now your saying it's someone else using a spécial build.  
I'm a bit confused! 
But anyway; I would love to see a photo of that rig. If the Krieger barrel is same  size as the L42/ L39, then it may be a good option for my 39 when the time comes to replace it.
I am so sorry for the confusion Zed. I haven't shot Frenchie beyond 200 yards and do not ever intend to. 
The rifle I was referring to that I have shot out to 1 mile with belongs to an acquaintance of mine. 
Again, sorry for the confusion...
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Well, would be fun to try and do this some day (a mile shot with a No. 4).  But, I’ll have to be content to occasionally shoot to 1000 yds.  1000 yard ranges are few and far between in the US South East, and I don’t know of any one mile ranges at all in this area. 

I’d like to shoot the .303 to 1000, but I don’t see that happening on electronic targets because of the velocity requirements to function the target system.  The 174 SMK is somewhat ballistically challenged for that task. 
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For anyone intrerested in picking up some long range skills, this sounds like a good course to get you into it.

https://fritzprecisionshooting.com/

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Classroom, where we will break down the mechanics of long-range shooting and components.  A handbook that contains all topics covered will be provided. 

Set up rifle system for each shooter, learn ballistic apps, and head to the range. 

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Ring steel targets ranging from 180 yards to 1 mile (1760 yards)

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That looks like a whole lot of fun! 
It would fit nicely into a trip to the States. Maybe next year! 
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you are always welcome here ...dont put that trip off too long 
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Same here.
We're scattered  all over the place, Paddy is about 2 hours south of me & probably the closest. I'm about 90 miles from DC but across a bridge to the Eastern Shore of Md.
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A really nteresting subject..
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It is rather complicated. Enviable those who made all this first steps already, some time ago.

As first we always have to prepare us properly. The rifle, the ammo, the ballistics, the optics - and, in my case - the approval for the use of a special shooting range. A range which cannot be used by all shooters... . Which ammo is the most promising.. ? Perhaps the .303 British Hornady 174 grs BTHP Vintage Match - or a reload ? The muzzle velocity and Trajectory and accuracy of our ammo..

And a sight, which is still missing.. The Mk2 on a No.4-Enfield would cost too much ammo, says Mike..



 



 
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