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    Posted: April 25 2006 at 1:21am
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/19900-16393-1926.html   It says it mounts onto the ejector screw and the "rear sight cross pin"  I know what te cross pin is but I have never seen such a scope mount.  The ones I have seen attach to the ejector screw and the saftey screw.  Is this catalog ad just a mis print?
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Tony is correct, the picture of the rifle is mirrored, but the picture of the mount is not.  I have a B-Square mount for the No. 4 series, and have installed many others, all with great success.  And yes, it does use the sight cross pin and the ejector screw holes.  The mount actually comes with a replacement ejector screw because the original is not long enough.  You may need to do some minor fitting of the mount due to changes from factory to factory, but the mount is made from aluminum so it is quite easy to work with.
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Originally posted by myenfield myenfield wrote:

Tony is correct, the picture of the rifle is mirrored, but the picture of the mount is not.  I have a B-Square mount for the No. 4 series, and have installed many others, all with great success.  And yes, it does use the sight cross pin and the ejector screw holes.  The mount actually comes with a replacement ejector screw because the original is not long enough.  You may need to do some minor fitting of the mount due to changes from factory to factory, but the mount is made from aluminum so it is quite easy to work with.
So do they include an longer sight pin?  How do I fit it? I already see I'm going to have to to remove the sight pin for this mount but what do I have to do to remount it with the scope mount?  It's puzzling as the "head" of the sight pin is on the opposite side of the rifle. 
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The mount comes with a replacement sight pin that is held in place by "C" clips on both ends.  Sometimes the mount is a little sloppy on the outside of the reciever where the sight pin goes through, and I have shimmed this with washers.  Theoretically, the rear sight can be installed under the mount, but in practice I have never been successful doing this.  Even if you do install the rear sight, you can't flip it up when the mount is installed, and if your scope has a large objective lens, you may not be able to see past it anyway.
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Originally posted by myenfield myenfield wrote:

The mount comes with a replacement sight pin that is held in place by "C" clips on both ends.  Sometimes the mount is a little sloppy on the outside of the reciever where the sight pin goes through, and I have shimmed this with washers.  Theoretically, the rear sight can be installed under the mount, but in practice I have never been successful doing this.  Even if you do install the rear sight, you can't flip it up when the mount is installed, and if your scope has a large objective lens, you may not be able to see past it anyway.

 

My Enfield has the WWII sights in place of the traditional flip up adjustable sight rear sight.  You say it is sloppy?  How sloppy? Would it be enough to affect the accuracy of the rifle?  What type of washers do you recomend for shims?

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The "slop" in this area will vary from action to action.  Your rifle may have no play at all.  Once you install the mount, you will have to look at the amount of play to be taken up and select washers of appropriate thickness.  I have, in desparation, made my own with tin snips and an old aluminum pop can.  If you don't pay attention to this play, I would think you could have serious accuracy problems, since this area has a great affect on the side to side movement of the mount once it is istalled.  Keep in mind that B-Square has designed this mount to fit on basically any No. 4 or No. 5 action, so there has to be tolerance.  I have used this mount on No. 4s, No. 5s, and currently have one on my No. 8 and they have worked well every time, once they are fitted. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Enfield trader Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 12 2006 at 11:48am
Do yourself a favor and buy an S&K mount -- much better then the B-Square ( yes just my opinion )
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looking for a enfield action p17 1917
does any one have any place to call for one
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Eric Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 09 2006 at 5:24am

If you are a member of an associated club, the CMP sells them. 

http://www.odcmp.com/Rifles/M1917.htm

They're priced fairly decent, but I'm not sure of the condition.

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