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    Posted: February 25 2023 at 4:29am
You’re very welcome Vassy, but, I’m only passing on what others on this form have done for me.  Glad I could help. 
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Hi Guys especially Britrifles.
As posted a while back, new to this forum, help in obtaining a Cno7 Extractor for my .22 trainer Long Branch.
You/we have a Dimond of a guy on this forum Geoff, he identified the extractor exactly and gave some alternative suggestions as to what might be the problem (as did many of you) 
He suggested I PM him , well once I got to grips with what PM was I did.
The Generosity of this Man is overwhelming, he had a spare and sent me it completely free of charge.
Now I’m not suggesting sending begging requests, because its glaringly obvious he’s a very genuine generous man, the knowledge he brings to this forum from what I’ve seen so far is invaluable.
Can’t thank him enough, from a very happy Brit and eternally grateful. 
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Originally posted by Shamu Shamu wrote:

That stinks, can you get at the hinge pins?

I don't think so; I'm seeing some shooting friends tomorrow for advice before I get the angle grinder out. 
Premier brand of secure cabinet comes complete with a cheap key! 

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That stinks, can you get at the hinge pins?
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Here in Canada, firearms and ammo must be locked away securely in separate cabinets, rooms, bomb shelters or what have you; as long as they are secure. Mine are. They are in a well locked room, with two entries, unlock enter, unlock enter. Inside my gun vault I have racks and cabinets, all locked.
While talking to an OPP officer, I posed a hypothetical Q, what happens if it`s broken into and stuff goes missing.
His response was, in all likely hood you`d be arrested for having unsecured firearms and other controlled items!!!......................
Hows that for being an upstanding law abiding F--king Canadian!!!! Really really starting to hate this reality we call Canada, we`re set up for failure right from the get go.
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Originally posted by britrifles britrifles wrote:

How much time do these laws give you to lock up the ammunition?  As soon as one round is loaded? 15 minutes, 30 minutes after it’s loaded?  Do the reloading components have to be locked up too? A bit absurd…

Geoff, no time limit as such but everything has to be secure if you're out of the house, I seem to recall that the firearms act says you have to "be in control" of firearms & ammunition with other people around or some such? 
Components as far as I'm aware do not have be locked away...mine certainly aren't. 

I've drilled the lock but to no avail, just waiting to hear from the manufacturer (Brattonsound) before doing anything else, it would be nice to save the cabinet if possible because at £279 I really don't want to buy another. 

Tomorrow is now about reloaded 144gr RG bullets, some seated to the cannelure and the rest to magazine length. I picked 300 of these up the other day for peanuts and wondered if they would make a reasonable plinking round...not that I do much plinking these days!
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Mick, that must be frustrating!  

I used to say that these locked cabinets were just for keeping your “friends” out, doesn’t do much for someone who is determined to get in.  Hopefully you don’t have to resort to a drill and you can get a new lock. 

How much time do these laws give you to lock up the ammunition?  As soon as one round is loaded? 15 minutes, 30 minutes after it’s loaded?  Do the reloading components have to be locked up too? A bit absurd…




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As a carry on to the problems faced by us Brits by current Home Office and police regulations let me tell you how my weekend went.

I had made up three batches of various bullet weights and carefully seated them 0.15 thou off the lands ready for a two hour booking at 200 yards at Bisley tomorrow. 
This was to try my 7.62mm No.4 which to date hasn't shown much promise due to an ill fitting fore end which has now been re-inletted and hopefully fixed.

Pleased with my reloading endeavours I put then in my (separate) ammunition cabinet and turned the key, only to hear a clunk from inside the cabinet before the key had fully turned.
Using a bit more force to try and unlock the cabinet the key shaft came out minus the key fitting itself!
Emailed the makers for suggestions regarding getting back into the cabinet but so far have had no response, I'll give it until this afternoon before resorting to my electric drill.

The good news is that I have ammunition in another cabinet for another rifle so I will get to shoot, but not the rifle I really wanted to shoot!  


 
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I was "leant" to a different store  by the company I worked for. It was in Haslemere, Surrey. The house they arranged for me to have temporary accommodation in was one of those "Midsomer Murders rural mansions". It was owned by a widow of a retired military officer who'd passed away some years previously. She rented rooms to students & had 2 staff a gardiner/cook & a maid secretary. She did it "just to hear voices in the empty house"
They had a problem with nuisance deer (siki) which had been brought in, they were damaging trees by bark stripping & eating the vegetables from the garden.
A local Hunter from the village volunteered to "come up when he could" & did, but the deer never kept the appointment!
I mentioned That I could help as i was living there at the time, I just had to get "Avon & Somerset" to talk to "Surrey" constabulary to get my rifle there to be temporarily kept.
"No Need Old Chap, we have guns galore go & pick one"!
Oh Boy, did they ever!
My first & last "Gun Room" visit!
The walls were lined with oak  glass cabinets filled with mostly shotguns. The "cabinets below" held ammunition & handguns! I'm not saying it was huge but there was a full sized snooker (billiards) table in the center with room to play without being constricted!
They "got Away with it" because the room itself was solidly built & the doors both securely locked!
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i have to repeat what i know ive already said - in a different way , i like the fact that all my guns are intact as shipped to me or bought , safe in their storage area without any disassembly , i do have multiple magazines for my 22s and ARs and M14type rifes as well as all my handguns but they are stored with the item , some are loaded - OK a lot are loaded and ready to go - not that they are going anywhere , 

im very sorry some of you dont have the freedoms we have , but im really happy we do [as immitted as they have become] i think everyone should have the same rights and be as free as we are , i also think our constitution has been infringed in that we cant own anything we want without paper , but thats another discussion altogether , 

im going to open my cabinet and dig out all of my 22s [quite a lot of them] for further inventory and cleaning tomorrow - that may take all day but ive nothing else to do , its winter here even tho its currently raining and may freeze in the night , not our regular feb and wont last long - i hope , 

im not trying to rub it in so much as to cmpare the difference between god given rights and government control - what we here are fighting every day , our forefathers had a great insight into the future , but i think they forgot to abolish lawyers , just my take , we shall see if we survive , i hope we do and they rest of you one day get to enjoy the same , OR NOT if thats what you choose 
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Many years ago my Father had a 'very keen' new firearms inspector doing his examination of Fathers storage, and 'reported him' for not having an officially accepted gunsafe,( It was the old manor house from the 1600s with huge built in Oak cupboards and he actually had a chain and padlock across and thru the doors).

The law states that the storage must be secure, it does not say that an approved steel gunsafe must be used.

Father was in 'extended communication' and arguing the law with the regional Chief Constable when he had a very fortunate 'accident happen'.

Alongside the family farm were two roads that came down to a sharp bend & a junction, we often 'found' stuff that had fallen off trucks going around the corner with a bit too much speed.
Anyway, one day father found a steel box / case that had rolled into the field, - on opening it it contained pistols and ammunition.

The Police 'range' was about 5 miles up the road from us and it seems as if when they were packing up they had put the box on the roof of the car, forgotten it was there and until it got to 'our corner' it just sat on the roof.

Father took great delight in asking the Chief Of Police if he would care to come out and visit him to discuss firearm security, 

"O' and whilst you are here you can collect those pistols your officers lost last week"

Amazingly, Fathers licence was renewed and there was no more discussion about firearm storage.
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Bristol, back when it was Avon & Somerset required "an essential part of the mechanism" be removed & "stored in a separate, locked container."(from the firearms locked storage container)
Bolt wasn't specifically mentioned but it was the most common item removed & stored separately.
There was a "strong suggestion" that the container should not be capable of being easily removed from its storage place.
Ammo also had to be in a "Secure Container", again no "safe" mentioned.
I had this giant, ancient oak wardrobe. It literally had to be dismantled to get it out of the room, round the "U" turn at the top of the stairs to get it out of the house.
One end was a 2-position rifle rack lockable & bolted within the locked wardrobe, it had a chain that padlocked both rifles to it.
There were 3 large ammo cans in there, each bolted through the monstrous 1" thick "floor" with carriage bolts (coach bolts), with washers & fender washers on the inside & outside, the he nuts were steel filled epoxied to the bolt threads through the bottoms. The hex nut inside the domed head outside under the plank floor. Each had a padlock hasp & combination lock securing the lid.
I loved it when we got a "New Guy" do the random semi-annual inspection.
 They always tried to pick the cans up & "tut tut" me for "insecure storage". They thought they were lifting an ammo can, not a giant fortified Victorian monster wardrobe.Shocked
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im so blessed to be here fighting with a constitutional right behind me i  instead of pi$$ing up a rope , in spite of our commie threats to the constitution here id be arguing with bureaucrats , that sounds like nothing but wasted time 
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Originally posted by Strangely Brown Strangely Brown wrote:

Originally posted by Vassy51 Vassy51 wrote:

Here we have to keep bolts in separate safes.

And here is the problem, I've lost count of the moans & groans first thing at Bisley when club members realise they have bought the wrong bolt along for the rifle they are going to shoot. 

Vassy, you have my sincere sympathy for living in a county with a firearms department that issues such unnecessary creeds when it comes to firearms storage...move to Wiltshire before it's too late! Smile

I've never had the requirement to store the bolt seperately in, Nottinghamshire, North Wales or Lincolnshire.

The problem is that the Police try and interpret the law rather than enforce the law - Had a wonderful argument with my Local Fireams Manager that resulted in him being "removed for office".

He insisted that because I had removed & refitted the furniture I had to resubmit the rifle for proofing, eventually I had to get a letter from the Proof House explaining that they wanted furniture removing before the rifle was sent to them to avoid damage in the clamps.


When I explained to the Chief Constable that the Firearms managers' 'rules' meant that I would be forever sending the rifle for proof, he agreed. The position is now shared between two youg ladies who job-share.

This is what the Fireams Manager rules required ....................

Remove furniture, send to proof house.
Get the rifle back, refit furniture, it now requires re-proofing.
Remove furniture, send to proof house ......................

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Originally posted by Vassy51 Vassy51 wrote:

Here we have to keep bolts in separate safes.

And here is the problem, I've lost count of the moans & groans first thing at Bisley when club members realise they have bought the wrong bolt along for the rifle they are going to shoot. 

Vassy, you have my sincere sympathy for living in a county with a firearms department that issues such unnecessary creeds when it comes to firearms storage...move to Wiltshire before it's too late! Smile
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