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DisasterDog
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Topic: Web Gear ModificationsPosted: February 25 2025 at 1:14pm |
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Not really a reenacting question, but I didn’t know where else to put this:
I really like the P37 web equipment & have a few sets that I regularly take out into the field, but of course the small pack is too small & the large pack is too large. Was wondering if anyone else does similar, and what modifications you have made to make the small pack more useful. I’m thinking along the lines of attaching the canteen & carrier to it, or adding basic or auxiliary pouches to it, etc…… Tips, tricks & pics much appreciated. Thanks guys!
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Shamu
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Posted: February 25 2025 at 2:05pm |
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just use one strap & carry it slung diagonally like a modern possibles bag.
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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DisasterDog
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Posted: February 25 2025 at 2:28pm |
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Diagonal carry of the small pack is less than ideal in mountainous terrain. The small pack with an additional pouch on each side seems ideal, much like the early Chindit mods. Not sure if I want to go the route of sewing them on though!
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hoadie
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Posted: February 25 2025 at 3:30pm |
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which military pattern are you talking about? Are you talking Brit, Cdn, US or what?
Not too many mind readers here.
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Loose wimmen tightened here
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hoadie
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Posted: February 25 2025 at 3:31pm |
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Woops! just realized your talking P37....My Bad. Sorry
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Loose wimmen tightened here
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DisasterDog
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Posted: February 25 2025 at 4:53pm |
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Yep, Patt ‘37.
I’ve used the old WW2 US stuff, but too many metal bits on it for scratching up a slung rifle (usually a No.5).
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Shamu
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Posted: February 25 2025 at 5:31pm |
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How about some kind of wide strap encircling the pack, using the belt clips of Universal pouches? Rig it above the existing side buckles so it can't slip off?
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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Posted: February 25 2025 at 5:52pm |
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It depends which order you are attempting to represent. Parade Order, Fighting Order, or Marching Order?
The most commonly replicated order for reenacting is Fighting order which generally consists of the Small pack, two "L" straps, A right and Left set of braces, a skeleton carrier for your Mess kit, a canteen in either a canteen carrier or skeleton carrier, a pick/mattock, either the issued one in its carrier or more commonly a large D handled spade tucked in the braces somewhere, bayonet and scabbard, belt, and two Universal pouches. Quite often your rolled up rain slicker or gas cape was tucked under the flap of the small pack and your enameled cup hanging outside the pack on one its straps. You can also add a wire cutter in its carrier, a utility knife hanging from its strap, extra canteens, and extra universal pouches that hang from their own straps on one side of your body. A wound dressing was quite often worn under the camouflage netting of the helmet. depending upon expected action you might be issued grenades, Gammon bombs, and spare bandoliers of ammunition in chargers.
Marching Order sees the Large Pack being carried with your helmet attached to the outside face of the large pack by two crossed straps. Action is generally not expected. Inside of either pack is your housewife, shaving kit, extra socks, and personal effects |
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Posted: February 25 2025 at 10:25pm |
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dont do this reenacting but i do have the small packs for my ammo that i take to the range , one set up with 303 in chargers , one for 308 and one for 22cal , each has a single strap of the suspender rig , easy to carry and handles the ammo well , the extra attachments make nice locations for glasses cases and hearing protection as well as other tools i might need , i like my kit it works well ,
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Posted: February 26 2025 at 6:50am |
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See if you can find some old pictures of that webbing pattern in use a similar "area of operations" (terrain you plan on being in) during WW2 by troops that used the gear. Must be some as we were deployed all over the world during that time! If it worked for them, it should work for you! Best of luck!
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Posted: February 26 2025 at 9:05am |
1st pic, basic P37 webgear as issued. 2nd pic with a little more 'battle rattle' added. 3rd pic shows clasp knife and binocular case.![]() ![]() |
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Shamu
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Posted: February 26 2025 at 9:23am |
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If you want to avoid stitching how about punching a few holes & using Grommets or lace eyes to stop fraying? I'm thinking about 4 holes slightly wider apart & distanced a little more vertically than the "belt hooks", on the Universal Pouches. Its a variation on what US troops did to the ALICE system because the ALICE clips were uncomfortable. Once punched & grommets fitted, simply "lace up" the hooks to the holes with a couple of turns of paracord & then just tie off the ends securely to each other inside the pack?
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Posted: February 26 2025 at 11:54am |
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I use paracord on lots of web gear and ammo pouches.
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Posted: February 26 2025 at 12:34pm |
The leg strap from a drop-leg tanker holster fits the belt fittings on a basic pouch, 2 of them would go around the small pack just fine. A single brace across the top of the small pack to secure the tops of the basic pouches & tie into the small pack’s fittings as well. Since things tend to slip & need to be doubled-up in the fittings, the extra length of the brace straps will make a loop on each side that the 2 holster leg straps can go through. In theory, I don’t have a second leg strap, nor one to spare, but I’m mocking it up right now….. I already had the tanker holster out trying to figure out the way to make it a shoulder rig, like the Lofoten Raid picture. So it all kinda clicked.
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DisasterDog
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Posted: February 26 2025 at 12:48pm |
I do have complete sets, but as usually happens with collecting web gear, I have excess of enough things to make kit for actual field use. I consider P37 gear to be pretty versatile, which is why I like to use it. Probably improper of me to post in the reenacting section, as this is more about adapting said equipment for more practical purposes in the modern age. Kinda based off of photos of soldiers modifying things for specialist purposes, but also seeing what you guys may have found or done through your own use of the equipment.
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Posted: February 26 2025 at 8:21pm |
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ive used the paracord on a lot of things , but i like to carry ammo in the small pouches and i use a single shoulder strap on all four of mine , but im not trekking mountainous areas either
i forgot i have one newer pattern small pack as well that has 762 in it , i think its P51 version |
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