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Canuck ![]() Special Member ![]() ![]() Donating Member Joined: January 17 2012 Location: Agassiz BC Status: Offline Points: 3118 |
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Okay, thx for the correction.
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Castles made of sand slip into the sea.....eventually
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hoadie ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Joined: March 16 2006 Location: Niagara/Canada Status: Offline Points: 8226 |
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Not stamped on the wrist, Canuck. Its stamped on the top of the barrel
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Canuck ![]() Special Member ![]() ![]() Donating Member Joined: January 17 2012 Location: Agassiz BC Status: Offline Points: 3118 |
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I live in Surrey, BC. Man, would I love to own a #4 with 'Surrey' stamped on the wrist!
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A square 10 ![]() Special Member ![]() Donating Member Joined: December 12 2006 Location: MN , USA Status: Online Points: 11666 |
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what has happened to the magazine well ?
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hoadie ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Joined: March 16 2006 Location: Niagara/Canada Status: Offline Points: 8226 |
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Well now I have a question of identity.
One of the lads that hunts with me brought his Enfield to camp(as most do). This one was a No4 MkI stamped 1944. There was NO serial number on the bolt at all. The I.D stampings were on the LEFT side of the socket, and it was stamped "SURREY" in the middle of the barrel - half way down. It was sported, but still retained the original butt plate. I've never seen one marked like that before, & it seemed to be covered in that "black paint" (suncorite?) Please give me some insight on this, Oracle of the forum. ![]() Hoadie |
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LE Owner ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: December 04 2009 Status: Offline Points: 1047 |
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If you decide on a restoration check with APEX , they have an online store.
They used to list unissued in the wrap nose caps with no serial numbers. Its always better to have no numbers on the cap rather than non matching numbers which show the cap has been salvaged from another rifle. Last time I looked they no longer listed these, but its common for online stores to stop listing an item when stocks run low. You could email them to find out if they still have a few stashed away.
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BlackAck ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: July 25 2012 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 188 |
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![]() Thank you for the laugh. Hudson, you have a nice Enfield. Now the question is: restore or not? |
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A square 10 ![]() Special Member ![]() Donating Member Joined: December 12 2006 Location: MN , USA Status: Online Points: 11666 |
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sure glad he got the photos posted before we cannibalized him , thanks for joining us and sorry things went so sideways before getting on track ,
nice rifle , we encourage restoration where possible ,
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Rastis ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: January 28 2011 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 15 |
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G'Day,
This is the third SMLE sporterised exactly the same I have seen, with the rounded pistol grip and filled site protector holes. The other 2 were BSA manufacture from 1915. One is featured in Jay Currah's web site, listing examples of sporterised Lee Enfields. The other is owned by a neighbor here in Australia. I am starting to believe a company may have been commercializing WW1 surplus rifles to this style and selling them to the public. Just seems a coincidence to have the same rifle on different continents.
Thanks,
Rastis.
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Rule .303
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hoadie ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Joined: March 16 2006 Location: Niagara/Canada Status: Offline Points: 8226 |
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Well, it goes like this,Paddy. Ya push the bolt forward , thereby chambering a live cartridge. Once the bolt is in the "locked down" position...it is "cocked" and ready to fire. Whence you pull the trigger, the primer is struck by the firing pin-thereby exploding the powder in the cartridge. The resulting gasses from said explosion pushes the bullet down the barrel & on it's way to whatever target you send it. ![]() ![]() Hoadie |
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paddyofurniture ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 26 2011 Location: NC Status: Offline Points: 3892 |
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Looks like a great "Bambi" buster to me.
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Always looking for military manuals, Dodge M37 items,books on Berlin Germany, old atlases ( before 1946) , military maps of Scotland. English and Canadian gun parts.
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SW28fan ![]() Special Member ![]() ![]() Donating Member Joined: July 02 2007 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 2699 |
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The classic No1MkIII* SMLE.
It is quite restorable but a useful deer gun as is.
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Alan de Enfield ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 01 2009 Location: Eastern England Status: Offline Points: 241 |
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Well - the obvious first
It has been sporterised (woodwork cut down) Manufactured in 1917 at the Enfield plant It is a Short Magazine Lee Enfield (SMLE) mark 3* The * after the 'mark' indicates it had several modifications to simplify manufacture during WW1 (ie removal of the 'cut off') It was sold into the UK civilian gun trade - hence the UK civilian 'proof marks' (BNP 303 2.222" 18.5tons per sq inch) Birmingham Nitro Proof 303 = calibre 2.222" = cartridge length 18.5 tons per sq inch = proof test It subsequently made its way into the USA before 1968 - hence the "England" import mark (after 1968 the marking requirements demanded the importers name as well) |
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paddyofurniture ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 26 2011 Location: NC Status: Offline Points: 3892 |
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Nice rifle, 1917 was a good year.
Looks like someone cut down the stock. How does it shoot? |
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Always looking for military manuals, Dodge M37 items,books on Berlin Germany, old atlases ( before 1946) , military maps of Scotland. English and Canadian gun parts.
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SW28fan ![]() Special Member ![]() ![]() Donating Member Joined: July 02 2007 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 2699 |
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I think he'll fit right in
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Hudson ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: October 11 2013 Location: North America Status: Offline Points: 8 |
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Thanks for your patience!
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Life's rough...Get a helmet.
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