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Definitely be an experience to go to USA or CANADA chasin Bears (Or probably vice-versa)

 



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Yeah, bad year indeed...there was that other death near Canmore, as well as two more in Ft Nelson region (not sure to what extent they were though).  One of the dogs in camp even had bear scars...that bugger was a god among canines.  After that surveying missus was mauled, the contractors decided to train a number of "arms handlers"...shotguns w/ some good slugs.  Winchester Model 12...
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Duke, the new Midway USA catalog has Woodleigh bullets listed. Pricey, but they have em. Will they ship across the border?
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Hey Ed, appreciate the hook up...will have to look into them! 

Yeah Allan, bears are a treat.  I'm a tree planter/forest fire fighter out here in BC during the summer semester...and I must say, it's mighty humbling to be working on the block and seeing a bear sitting down and watching you from the treeline.  For the most part, they really aren't that threatening...but I've been fortunate to never meet one on a bad day.  Must admit though, I have been in situations where I've tried to calculate what would be closer...somebody else whose knee I could jam my shovel into the back of and run, or the truck. 
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OK let me get this straight ! You blokes mean to tell me that years ago when I watched "Gentle Ben " & latter Grizzly Adams ! That Bears are'nt really cute & cuddely ? That their really some thing that just looks at you as being something lower on the Food chain than them ?   I'm shattered 

    It sounds like you have the problem we have up North with Crocs ! People ignore warning signs Of no swimming as they think that Crocs are a slow moving dumb creature ! Or even worse these days because of the Tour boats that Feed them any boat is now a sorce of a free feed in those areas  (Hey Did'nt Hoadie mention a season for tourists ?????)

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Sad to say, Gentle Ben was never seen running as fast as a horse or killing Lions with a single lazy swipe...I hear what you say about the crocs with Hippos too...people see them and their big flat teeth and say they're harmless...but they're apparantly incredibly territorial and manage to bite people in two...
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Originally posted by Dukeoflawnchair Dukeoflawnchair wrote:

Sad to say, Gentle Ben was never seen running as fast as a horse or killing Lions with a single lazy swipe...I hear what you say about the crocs with Hippos too...people see them and their big flat teeth and say they're harmless...but they're apparantly incredibly territorial and manage to bite people in two...


 I read some where once That Hippos account for more deaths in africa each year than any other animal ! As for bears I like many others have only ever seen them in a Zoo but looking at their Claws is enough to give me great respect for them ! Esp when as you point out they are capible of great speeds over a short distance ! Camel are the same people see them as a docile creature (Bad tempered maybe but docile ) This maybe the case in captivity but speaking from experiance ! This is not the case in the wild  A fully grown Bull Camel will attack even a vehicle if he thinks it will threatern his harem ! Mind you a 180 -215gn cast .303 seems to make them lose intrest real fast !In fact it becomes a one sided arguement (not in the camels favor I might add )



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Dave and Duke, I have great bear stories.. Was in Banff one year and a tourist asked the ranger how to tell the difference between brown (black) bears and grizzlys. The ranger said that when the bear chases you up the tree, the brown bear will climb up the tree and pull you out and eat you, and the grizzly will shake you out of the tree and eat you.

True story, was in Yosemite on a motorcycle ride, and a guy at the station was showing us the bear claw marks THROUGH the hood of his VW. Went inside and a woman ( his wife) was asking the ranger if they had troubles with bears getting in tents. The ranger started to say no, and I interrupted to ask if that was her car outside? The ranger was a little annoyed until I explained she was asking because she wanted to put the food in the tent with them! The ranger didn't believe it but the woman said, yes, they didn't want the car damaged anymore. When I left the ranger was having a looong talk with her and her husband.
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Yeah, Ed, ain't that the truth.  That's my complaint with the bush camps that I live in during summer...we erect a tent city somewhere in isolation...so of course, there's beer cans, toothepaste, chocolate bar wrappers, sunscreen, and half eaten lunches all over the place.  Hate to say it, but we really are a bunch of stupid kids.  Can't really blame the bear for getting curious!  And we say they're infringing on our territory...

Never seen a camel, even in captivity! 

 

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Here's the best Bear story I've heard around these parts.  I heard it from a bush pilot last summer...she was some crazy 40 year old lady who drank like a 15 year old girl.  Anyhow, one flight day, one of her ex-flying companions was bringing some surveyors into some isolated abandoned camp of some sort.  There was a large bear on the terrain when he was nearing the landing pad, so the guy did a few fly bys and spooked it away.  They landed, moved into the cabins, and carried on that day.  The next morning, they woke up, and the chopper was gone (an Astar, apparantly).  Anyhow, they followed the trail to a cliff and found the chopper way at the bottom...the bear managed to roll the bugger 50 meters away from the pad and off the cliff. 

Stories like that make me want to secure some of them .215gr... 

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.we erect a tent city somewhere in isolation...so of course, there's beer cans, toothepaste, chocolate bar wrappers, sunscreen, and half eaten lunches all over the place.

 Some where Isolated? ...... That's my Bedroom you've been camping in !!! Damned Squatters

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I guess I've gotta ask the question then. If you can't put the food in your car or your tent where the hell do you put it?

Bears have a sense of smell, what, 10 times that of a dog, don't they?


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Heres what your SUPPOSED to do. Yes - they DO have a VERY good sense of smell.(I'm told by Ministry of Natural Resources here - that they have incidents of Blacks travelling as far as 30 kms, to a dumpsite - repeatedly!!)
Anyway, if your out in the great outdoors (or Dave's bedroom!) you take your food packs, & tie 'em together. Then find yourself 2 trees- not too far apart.String a line between 'em high enough a bear can't reach.(10 - 12 feet) then run your food packs up so that they're suspended in the middle of the trees.Make sure the bears can't reach the packs from either tree- if they climb them.Eventually, they will tire & leave.
Another tip ( that we're NOT supposed to talk about) DON'T bring a woman -if she's expecting that time of the month!!!The smell of the blood isn't much different than chuming for sharks!!
& since ALL firearms are banned in the parks - you could end up with a VERY untennable situation!!
& If you REALLY want to see a bear go nuts - see what happens when he gets a tent (or whats left of it!!) wrapped around his head, & can't see. Wow!
I remember - as a cadet- they showed us film footage of what to expect from bears in the wild.You aint seen NOTHIN till you watch one peel the door off a full size car or truck!!(& tourists think they're safe in 'em so they ALWAYS try to feed em!!)Just wait till your "treats" run out - then you'll see how fast the doors come off!!
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Hmm...we keep our food and our women in isolation with us (Dave's Bedroom?  Wait a sec...)

We usually have a good 80 people in each camp...so we take our chances with a Reefer (big fridge trailer)...

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Then again, that's the company cooks with the camps food...assorted tidbits that somehow end up in someone elses tent is a different question...
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Hmm...we keep our food and our women in isolation with us (Dave's Bedroom?  Wait a sec...)

 Ok the food scraps,empty Beer cans ,candy wrappers I have been able to expliain to the wife! Now your telling me you've been keeping women as well ???????

 Buck Roos will attack Women at that time of the month as well as they smell the blood & consider a woman to just be a potential breeding partner !

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