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I suggest looking close at the muzzle for rifling, see if a .311 diameter bullet can be inserted in the muzzle. If it can be, all the way to the base of the bullet, someone did drill that out. 

That “dark ring” could be a shadow caused by an actual bulge in the barrel, which would be detected externally on the barrel outer profile. 

Either way, I wouldn’t shot it…


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As I said earlier, muzzle is tight, bullet stops exactly like on my other enfield with new barrel. And there is no external sign of bulging.
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Originally posted by makrato makrato wrote:

Oh, okay no problem. I will go and try it out on the range with a string I guess.
Hope its a long string...
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Maybe I’m not seeing the picture correctly but to me it looks like the barrel has been counterbored. Usually done to repair a damaged or worn crown/muzzle without shortening the barrel. If that’s all it is, the rifle should function fine. 
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Try this.
take a cleaning rod & a TIGHT fitting patch on a round, not loop type jag.
Oil it well.
Take a cleaning rod & lay it alongside the barrel marking with tape or something similar where the beginning of the suspected bulge is.
Slide it in from the breech end, like you were cleaning to JUST SHORT of the beginning of the suspect area.
SLOWLY slide back & forth feeling for any change in resistance as you pass through the suspect area.
If it noticeably changes your barrel is bulged.
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Originally posted by makrato makrato wrote:

As I said earlier, muzzle is tight, bullet stops exactly like on my other enfield with new barrel. And there is no external sign of bulging.


Did you measure the barrel OD with calipers? Check to be sure there is no measurable outward bulge at this location.  If not, then I don’t know what this could possibly be. The barrel cannot have been made this way, boring tooling could not have done this.

Barrels can indeed bulge if it was shot with some form of obstruction, even a cleaning patch left in the bore can do this.  Can you feel this area with a cleaning rod and snug fitting patch?  If it is a bulge, you will feel less resistance with a cleaning rod. 

Post some photos of the rifle once you have your 20 points. Curious to see what it is. 


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Seems Shamu had the same idea I had, just noticed his post. 
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Try this! I manipulated the image a bit to see the interior shot of the bore better.
You can see the rifling restarting again after the "dark area".
If it is a bulge, that's exactly where I' expect it if the muzzle were "poked in the dirt" & a round fired.
Not conclusive but a possible clue.


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Just go shoot it to check accuracy. If it shoots fine stick with it. I see reason not to. barrels not obstructed, no real physical sign of and actual bulge.
If it won`t shoot accurately /consistent to point of aim then there`s something going on in the muzzle area.

Its always nice finding treasures in and around property you bought. And this treasure must have surely be a huge surprise. Beer
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BRITRIFLES:
Great minds & all that stuff!
Sick Wacko

Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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Shamu, you have DM from me with photo of the bore, would you care and insert it here since i cant please? :)
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I will try to shoot it tomorrow and let you guys know :)
I live on Czech/German border and a lot of fighting was done around here, swamps are to this day full of rusty K98s etc. I also found an stock holster from C96 Mauser, K98 when I was making a new roof. When I’m able to post photos I will post them here, the stock on Enfield is full of trench art and barrel was painted with green baby poop like paint :)
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Originally posted by makrato makrato wrote:

As I said above, the muzzle is not counterbored it passes the bullet test as good as my Lothar Walther barrel on my second rifle. Also the rifle was def. not deactivated, I found it when I bought a farm house. With original canvas sling that was trashed and also with pouches and WW2 ammo, it was hidden in old wheat machine.
I would at least make certain everything functions properly and the headspacing is within specs before shooting it makrato...
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Headspace is fine, I borrowed 303 gauges and tested it of course. Rifle is all n all in good condition except that dark ring. I will send you a DM with the ring up close
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The OP's barrel from a different angle. From a machinist perspective, that dark ring looks like a heat treatment issue after the rifling process...
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From a PM.


Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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