No4 Fazerkeley Mk2

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   Howdy all, 
After opening up my No5, I got curious and took my No4 apart for linseed treatments.  I've been reading and watching a ton of new material since I first got the No4 and noticed the internals are quite different (inexperience? Guilty!) I took a couple of photos that maybe some of you can help me with.  I'm just curious if everything looks normal to you guys here.  I still haven't shot it yet but I'm curious: does all of this look normal for a Fazerkely Mk2?

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FlyPiper907 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: January 31 2021 Location: Alaska Status: Offline Points: 188	Post Options Post Reply Quote FlyPiper907 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: No4 Fazerkeley Mk2 Posted: March 06 2021 at 9:03pm
	Howdy all, After opening up my No5, I got curious and took my No4 apart for linseed treatments. I've been reading and watching a ton of new material since I first got the No4 and noticed the internals are quite different (inexperience? Guilty!) I took a couple of photos that maybe some of you can help me with. I'm just curious if everything looks normal to you guys here. I still haven't shot it yet but I'm curious: does all of this look normal for a Fazerkely Mk2?

FlyPiper907 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: January 31 2021 Location: Alaska Status: Offline Points: 188	Post Options Post Reply Quote FlyPiper907 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: March 06 2021 at 9:11pm
	Also, I noticed there's not a pillar screw in this thing but there is some sort of material that came out with the action screw.

FlyPiper907 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: January 31 2021 Location: Alaska Status: Offline Points: 188	Post Options Post Reply Quote FlyPiper907 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: March 06 2021 at 9:16pm


Shamu Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Logo Designer / Donating Member Joined: April 25 2007 Location: MD, USA. Status: Offline Points: 20510	Post Options Post Reply Quote Shamu Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: March 07 2021 at 10:05am
	That is not "normal", or "Issue"! there was an accurizing trick with a metal spacer fitted between the top of the bottom metal & the fore-stock bottom, bit thats not it. There definitely should be the pillar.
	Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)

FlyPiper907 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: January 31 2021 Location: Alaska Status: Offline Points: 188	Post Options Post Reply Quote FlyPiper907 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: March 07 2021 at 10:13am
	Gotcha. Where would a guy find a proper Mk2 pillar for one of these things? Does everything else look okay in there?

FlyPiper907 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: January 31 2021 Location: Alaska Status: Offline Points: 188	Post Options Post Reply Quote FlyPiper907 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: March 07 2021 at 10:14am
	Shamu, also, if you look at the screw closely, there appears to be a washer between the screw head and where it would fit into the wood. I guess I’m having trouble understanding what you mean.

Zed Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Special Member Donating Member Joined: May 01 2012 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 6460	Post Options Post Reply Quote Zed Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: March 07 2021 at 10:31am
	FlyPiper907. If you need a spacer for the main screw, PM me your details. I'll send you one. I bought a box of 10 of these a few months back; because I was missing one from my L39. So have a few spare!
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FlyPiper907 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: January 31 2021 Location: Alaska Status: Offline Points: 188	Post Options Post Reply Quote FlyPiper907 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: March 07 2021 at 10:43am


Zed Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Special Member Donating Member Joined: May 01 2012 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 6460	Post Options Post Reply Quote Zed Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: March 07 2021 at 12:15pm
	That's it!
	It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice!

FlyPiper907 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: January 31 2021 Location: Alaska Status: Offline Points: 188	Post Options Post Reply Quote FlyPiper907 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: March 07 2021 at 12:21pm
	Cool, I’ve been hearing these may need to be professionally fitted. Is there any truth to that or is it a “one size fits all thing”? Assuming it’s t he latter, how do I know when it’s tight enough?

FlyPiper907 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: January 31 2021 Location: Alaska Status: Offline Points: 188	Post Options Post Reply Quote FlyPiper907 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: March 07 2021 at 12:39pm
	Again, I appreciate all your guys’ help and am really sorry about all of the questions. I’m working from a fairly remote location (Alaska) and my experience is limited. I’m trying to become self-sufficient in working on these things properly without screwing anything up; my current “cirriculum” consists of Riflechair’s videos and this forum. Local knowledge here in Alaska seems quite limited, even with the local gunsmiths. Thanks again, guys.

britrifles Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: February 03 2018 Location: Georgia, USA Status: Offline Points: 8404	Post Options Post Reply Quote britrifles Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: March 07 2021 at 12:48pm
	There is a bit of a trick to fitting one. If it is too long, the action body and chamber reinforce will not be contacting the forend. It must make firm contact at these locations. Install the bushing and tighten the main screw. See I if the barreled action can move up and down in the forend (it probably will). If it does, the bushing is too long and you need to file one end of it. But don’t over do it, if you file it too short, it will not serve its purpose. When you get it close (removed all vertical movement of the barreled action in the forend) remove the bushing and snug up the main screw. Mark the location on the main screw where it tightens to a reference point on the trigger guard, then fit the bushing and tighten the screw. You want the screw to tighten up on the bushing at the same point, or slightly before, it tightened up without the screw.

Shamu Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Logo Designer / Donating Member Joined: April 25 2007 Location: MD, USA. Status: Offline Points: 20510	Post Options Post Reply Quote Shamu Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: March 07 2021 at 1:20pm
	Not the washer as shown in the pic of the main screw. Its a flat shaped sort of rectangular plate. It was only used as part of a match accurizing process so you probably don't have one. It fills the space at the front end of the trigger guard so its about the same size & shape as the recess.
	Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)

FlyPiper907 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: January 31 2021 Location: Alaska Status: Offline Points: 188	Post Options Post Reply Quote FlyPiper907 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: March 07 2021 at 2:03pm
	Shamu, You’re saying this rifle doesn’t need a pillar?

FlyPiper907 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: January 31 2021 Location: Alaska Status: Offline Points: 188	Post Options Post Reply Quote FlyPiper907 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: March 07 2021 at 2:06pm
	Here’s a better view of where that screw goes when it’s all together:

britrifles Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: February 03 2018 Location: Georgia, USA Status: Offline Points: 8404	Post Options Post Reply Quote britrifles Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: March 07 2021 at 2:27pm
	Some rifles that were set up for competition had the bushing removed and the trigger guard is shimmed up to give larger contact surface with the forend. My Fulton Regulated No. 4 has this configuration. Because of this, I don’t leave the main screw tightened while in storage.