Enfield-Rifles.com Homepage
Forum Home Forum Home > Enfields > Hunting with the .303 British cartridge.
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Need help please
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Need help please

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  12>
Author
Message
martzall80 View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie
Avatar

Joined: October 04 2022
Location: usa/pa
Status: Offline
Points: 3
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote martzall80 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Need help please
    Posted: October 04 2022 at 11:34am
Hi, newbie here to the Enfield. I plan on using it for deer hunting this year in Pa. My rifle has a flip rear sight with a large hole and a small hole. I'm wondering what for rear sight i should get to hunt with. My ranges will be 50-300 yds. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Back to Top
Goosic View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: September 12 2017
Location: Phoenix Arizona
Status: Offline
Points: 8842
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Goosic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2022 at 4:14pm
Welcome to the forum. If you plan on using that rifle for hunting, leave the flip sight on the rifle and eight through the big hole.
Back to Top
Shamu View Drop Down
Admin Group
Admin Group
Avatar
Logo Designer / Donating Member

Joined: April 25 2007
Location: MD, USA.
Status: Offline
Points: 20510
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Shamu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2022 at 4:45pm
Agreed, the flip large is zeroed for 300yds with Mk VII 174Gr ball. If you're using anything else its a bit of a crap shoot, you'll have to work out your own drop tables though.
Personally I don't hunt, but I've found out that a 180 Gr SP is close enough for government work at any sane hunting range (under 300 yds).
The small is 600 yds so you'd have to aim off way low.

If it were me I'd get a Stamped Mk4 The one with the lever curving INWARDS. There's another version curving outwards but it was well known for snagging on things & changing the range unbeknownst to the shooter, & its accompanying spacer. (There's also one with a stamped elevator, but a cast base, you won't need the spacer for that if you can find one).
The peep is about the same as the "L" & it lets you quickly dial in for longer ranges with the slider whilst giving you a better 200yd zero!.
IMO its the best balance between the very basic simple "L" & the Singer micrometer with its bunches of clicks. You just squeeze, slide & release in 100 yd increments!


Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
Back to Top
A square 10 View Drop Down
Special Member
Special Member
Avatar
Donating Member

Joined: December 12 2006
Location: MN , USA
Status: Offline
Points: 16998
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote A square 10 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2022 at 7:40pm
welcome , i agree with above - for hunting dont overthink it you will think yourself right out of the hit at "that moment" , the battle sights were designed for just such target acquisition , there is a reason they were used , 
Back to Top
scottz63 View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: November 08 2021
Location: Mid Mo
Status: Offline
Points: 829
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote scottz63 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2022 at 10:01pm
Isn't there one of these sights with adjustable windage as well? I think I have seen one.
14EH AIT Instructor-PATRIOT Fire Control Enhanced Operator/Maintainer
Back to Top
Goosic View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: September 12 2017
Location: Phoenix Arizona
Status: Offline
Points: 8842
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Goosic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2022 at 9:14am
Originally posted by scottz63 scottz63 wrote:

Isn't there one of these sights with adjustable windage as well? I think I have seen one.
The sights in the above photo are the factory issued sights.
The sight you are referring to with the windage adjustment is an aftermarket setup...
Back to Top
scottz63 View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: November 08 2021
Location: Mid Mo
Status: Offline
Points: 829
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote scottz63 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2022 at 9:39am
Got it. Thanks.
14EH AIT Instructor-PATRIOT Fire Control Enhanced Operator/Maintainer
Back to Top
Shamu View Drop Down
Admin Group
Admin Group
Avatar
Logo Designer / Donating Member

Joined: April 25 2007
Location: MD, USA.
Status: Offline
Points: 20510
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Shamu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2022 at 11:52am
There are basically 2 windage adjustable rear sights if you ignore all the "target model" aftermarkets like the Parker-Hale & BSA ones.
One bolts to the elevator of the Mark 1 micrometer, giving you windage, but effectively removing the inscribed range scales.
The other is basically a modified Mk1 but it requires permanent & non-reversable modifications to the receiver to fit or work.
Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
Back to Top
Honkytonk View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: December 30 2017
Location: Brandon Mb
Status: Offline
Points: 5190
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Honkytonk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2022 at 12:24pm
In my opinion, windage adjustment on open sights for hunting is kind of useless, unless we're talking Kentucky Windage! Now if you need left/right adjustment to zero in a rifle at the range prior to hunting season it might be handy, but you can move the front sight in Lee Enfields to accomplish the same thing. Again, just my opinion.
Back to Top
Shamu View Drop Down
Admin Group
Admin Group
Avatar
Logo Designer / Donating Member

Joined: April 25 2007
Location: MD, USA.
Status: Offline
Points: 20510
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Shamu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2022 at 1:22pm
For zeroing some form of windage adjustment is a good thing. Please not I said "zeroing" not "sighting in", which is a slightly different thing.

But IMO its a "set it & forget it" kind of thing.
Now, if you're shooting paper for tiny groups centered on the X-Ring at a known distance then yes its handy.
Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
Back to Top
Goosic View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: September 12 2017
Location: Phoenix Arizona
Status: Offline
Points: 8842
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Goosic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2022 at 6:35pm
I simplified my rear sight by removing the battle sight part of it.
This allows me to fold the peep sight down and out of the way when the scope is in use. The large ghost ring helps to maintaining target acquisition while the intended target is in motion in my honest opinion...
Back to Top
A square 10 View Drop Down
Special Member
Special Member
Avatar
Donating Member

Joined: December 12 2006
Location: MN , USA
Status: Offline
Points: 16998
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote A square 10 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2022 at 6:57pm
thats a nice setup , i like that - i need a scope these days 
Back to Top
Strangely Brown View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: April 05 2022
Location: Wiltshire
Status: Offline
Points: 645
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Strangely Brown Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 06 2022 at 10:34am
Originally posted by Goosic Goosic wrote:

Originally posted by scottz63 scottz63 wrote:

Isn't there one of these sights with adjustable windage as well? I think I have seen one.
The sights in the above photo are the factory issued sights.
The sight you are referring to with the windage adjustment is an aftermarket setup...

P-H4 post war production and was only made for about two or three years before Parker Hale drew inspiration from the AJ Parker 4/47 and made the P-H5c. 
Sadly they come with a collectors price tag these days and regularly fetch £300 ($335) in good condition. 
Pictures nicked from Ebay! 


Mick
Back to Top
scottz63 View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: November 08 2021
Location: Mid Mo
Status: Offline
Points: 829
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote scottz63 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 06 2022 at 3:13pm
Oh wow! I like that one. And of course they are that expensive. Lol
14EH AIT Instructor-PATRIOT Fire Control Enhanced Operator/Maintainer
Back to Top
terrylee View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: December 30 2014
Location: South Africa
Status: Offline
Points: 942
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote terrylee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2022 at 6:20am
Strangely Brown, Thanks for your tip-off! Didn't realize that these had any value. Now removed from my junk box!

Back to Top
Strangely Brown View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: April 05 2022
Location: Wiltshire
Status: Offline
Points: 645
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Strangely Brown Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2022 at 6:30am
Originally posted by terrylee terrylee wrote:

Strangely Brown, Thanks for your tip-off! Didn't realize that these had any value. Now removed from my junk box!

Glad to be of service Terry! Smile

P-H4's are getting to be a scarce sight these days; I don't think I have ever seen one on a rifle at Bisley as the majority of SR"b" shooters I've known prefer the later, (and arguably better) AJP 4/47's and 
P-H5c's. 
Mick
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  12>

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 12.07
Copyright ©2001-2024 Web Wiz Ltd.