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    Posted: December 11 2023 at 5:02am
On this day (11 Dec. 1813) during the war of 1812 twixt them & us - 'Merican forces, after receiving resistance near what is now Hamilton, Ontario - decided to burn Virgil & Niagara On The Lake.(Their Commanding officer was court martialled later). So, in tit-for-tat retaliation British/Canadian forces set fire to the White House.(How'd that work out fer ya? )
That set a whole new bar for 1812 - 1815 events..everyone was burning everyone!!
(The late Pierre Burton wrote a very good book on that titled: Flames across the border. Its a very good & informative read)
Our forces probobly would have suceeded in burning the W/H down completely - but they forgot the marshmallows & smores, so they had to go back home to get 'em! (Course, that gave the 'Mericans time to put out the fire & white wash the capitol building. Dang! They had ONE job!! AAARRRGGHH!)
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Open a bar and grill, Every thing is burning!
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Hoadster '24!
You read it here first, folks!Hug Evil Smile
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Hey..SOMEONE has to keep these heathens up to date on their histry!
Looks like I got volunteered fer the job o' bein histry teacher for this mob.
Least with ME, ya get the facts, the TRUE facts & nuthin but the facts!! No fake news here!!
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Go Hoodie Go!
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Growing up and living in Canada for my first 36 years, I learned one version of the War of 1812. 

After 27 years living in the US, I’ve learned another version of that history and it’s somewhat different!  Just goes to show that history is often written with a bias and slant that is favorable to the side the writer is on. In the eye of the beholder as it were.

While Canadians think it was about the US unjustly attacking Canada, the US thinks it was about Britain not accepting the outcome of the Revolutionary War and Britain thought it was an opportunity to relitigate the Revolutionary War. In reality, not much was decided or resolved by it and it took some years until the independence of the US and its boarders were finally settled.  

Today, we are all friends (well, for the most part anyway…).
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And as friends, and a Canadian, I would like to offer a gift to the US and A. A gift of two Justins. Justin Beiber and Justin Trudeau! No thanks or reciprocating present necessary!😁
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how about a give you a Joe Biden in exchange for the bear bait?
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..oh, I fergot to mention...Paddy is actually a C.I.A. operative...so be careful bout wot u say when he's round
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And do not forget that,CIA, Confederate In Action, .

If call to service I will be happy to serve the new Government as need. 

I thank you all for your service to the new Government. Each and every one.
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when i was in school , back in the darker ages , i learnt that the brits sorta stirred the pot with the indians up on the boarder to rehash the revolution outcome but .............two years later in january of 1815 we paid a little back down by new orleans 
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Paddy worked for Century International arms?
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Just do not tell my wife.
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Originally posted by A square 10 A square 10 wrote:

when i was in school , back in the darker ages , i learnt that the brits sorta stirred the pot with the indians up on the boarder to rehash the revolution outcome but .............two years later in january of 1815 we paid a little back down by new orleans 


Only problem with that victory, is the war was over by the time the 'Mericans launched the attack on N/O.
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Hoadie,

If you are running for President you can no longer talk about war.

You have to be President for all of us.

You have to talk about:

Free love

Free money

Other free stuff.

And a Enfield in every house.

Thanks
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Originally posted by A square 10 A square 10 wrote:

when i was in school , back in the darker ages , i learnt that the brits sorta stirred the pot with the indians up on the boarder to rehash the revolution outcome but .............two years later in january of 1815 we paid a little back down by new orleans 


When the 'Mericans decided to invade what was to become Canada-they chose Upper Canada 1st, because all the British had here was 1,600 regular troops (of the 41st Reg't of foot) dispersed across the area.That was bolstered(sorta) by Canadian Militia groups being trained by them, & the indigeonous peoples. The Indians didn't side so much with the Brits out of loyalty..they saw them as the lesser of 2 evils. The 'Mericans were pushing ever westwards & slaughtering indians - so, Techumseh in particular managed to arrange a 1st Nations Confederacy to oppose the Americans because they could see what would happen if America won.
Thomas Jefferson wrongly stated that the total invasion would only amount to "a mere matter of marching".
At the treaty of Ghent the British vigourously argued for Indigeonous rights & property, but America wouldn't have it.
Kinda cool, cause I livein the heart of 1812-1815 here. Quenston Hieghts, Stoney Creek, Ft.Erie, Ft.George(The 1 they named after ME!) & Battle of Beaver dams all right here.
My Great, Great Grandfather fought & was wounded 2X.There was a cairn marker to him in center of Penatanguishene & he was awarded property & (I think) 20 gold soveriens for his service to the Crown. I never knew bout this stuff til relativley recently. Cheers Gramps!
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