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    Posted: December 24 2020 at 1:05am
I'm so glad that we have opened a forum devoted to the 7.62mm conversions. They are my favorite shooting rifles -  especially the Enforcer.

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You have a very nice collection there terrylee.
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Very nice Terrylee.

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How well do they shoot?  
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Britrifles, From a rest, and on several occasions,  the Enforcer has given me a cloverleaf at 100 m.  The last time I shot the L42 was several years ago at a 200/300m competitive shoot.  I came first.
I used the Envoy quite bit in my younger days with very satisfactory results.  The L39 is my latest acquisition and has only been tried out once by a friend, who liked it very much.

Unfortunately, the last two rifles have iron sights and should their aging owner now shoot them, they would be seriously disadvantaged! A younger shooter would be more suited to pass judgement on their present accuracy!     
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Very nice collection, thanks for posting
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Beautiful rifles. I would really like to get an L42 to shoot the 3x600 yard matches here. 
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Britrifles,  To use, and in my experience, the Enforcer is very much the better rifle. One has to remember that the No.32 T/S has its limitations. From a collecting perspective the picture is probably different. Terry
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Originally posted by terrylee terrylee wrote:

Britrifles,  To use, and in my experience, the Enforcer is very much the better rifle. One has to remember that the No.32 T/S has its limitations. From a collecting perspective the picture is probably different. Terry
Out of curiosity terrylee. Is the Enforcer the better rifle due to the Pecar scope being the better setup over the No32?
I only ask because to me, all four rifles should produce near identical groupings with each rifle having the same hammer forged heavy barrels correct?
My last question has to do with the L42A1 retaining the Mk1 trigger arrangement over the Enforcers Mk2 trigger arrangement and does it give it the advantage over the L42A1?
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Your example is a Mk1/3 action body and terrylee's is either a Mk1/2 or an actual Mk2 action. Both having the trigger hung from the action body itself and that is where my question rests.
Is terrylee's Enforcer better than his L42A1 because of the,"trigger arrangement" between the two? 
The L42A1 conversion was done using existing No4Mk1 T actions with existing triggers pinned to the trigger guard as you are no doubt aware. The Enforcer on the other hand had the upgrade of the trigger being hung from the action. Not that Parker Hale was the facility doing the upgrade, just they were using actions with the trigger upgrade already in place. I can see how confusing my question to terrylee would seem to you given your assumption that I was not using proper wording in the description of the Enforcer action and for that I apologize to you good sir...
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To my experience, both my L42 and Enforcer have proved to be very accurate rifles when using Belgian manufactured NATO ammunition. However, their scopes are 1940s and 1970s technology respectively and cannot be fairly compared. Just from a selfish user's perspective I far prefer the Pecar! Even that is dated having to be re-sighted when the magnification is changed.

From a technical perspective, my Enforcer's Mk 2 body mounted trigger is theoretically superior, though in practice my L42 never gave me any problems.  Perhaps that has something to do with the very stable climate where I am based. As could perhaps be expected with an ex-military rifle, the actual trigger pull of my L42 is slightly heavier than that of my Enforcer, but both are within acceptable limits: 4/6.25 and 3/5.25.

Finally, I can mention that my Enforcer, No. 54x, does not have a hammer-forged barrel, but rather the later machined version.   Terry.    
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I don't think you will have any real difference in trigger operation if properly set up. Although the trigger weight is less on the L39 than the L42.
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I definitely over polished the tits on the trigger,sear,and cocking piece on the faux L8A5T.  28 ounce first stage and 32 ounce on second stage.
But this is no longer grandpa's battle implement and nothing matters in this stage of its life.....Hug.....
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That's odd. Polishing those should reduce creep & stacking, but not greatly affect weight of pull!
Maybe you changed the angle of the cocking piece slightly?
For a target rifle I wouldn't be worried as long as it passes the cock-bump test. (cock the UNLOADED rifle then sharply tap the butt on a piece of wood a few times). if it trips you have a problem.
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I once stoned the face of the cocking piece a bit too steep and the result was very little difference in weight of first and second stage, it was too easy to release the striker when taking up the first stage.  Also, the trigger would not reset reliably when releasing the pressure on the trigger, it would hang, not safe at all.  Had to change the angle again to bring back a distinct first and second stage pull. 
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