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Originally posted by Shamu Shamu wrote:

That's odd. Polishing those should reduce creep & stacking, but not greatly affect weight of pull!
Maybe you changed the angle of the cocking piece slightly?
For a target rifle I wouldn't be worried as long as it passes the cock-bump test. (cock the UNLOADED rifle then sharply tap the butt on a piece of wood a few times). if it trips you have a problem.
No change of angle and it passes the bump test.
I used a very fine jewlers rouge impregnated with diamond powder. The two stage trigger pull is present but not as noticeable. All the pressure/contact points are simply very very smooth. I used a digital trigger pull gauge and the trigger enters the first stage right at 28 ounces/ 1lb 12oz. As you pull past the first stage the trigger releases at just under 34 ounces/ 2lb 2oz. Not too light and nothing that would be considered dangerous.
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For a target rifle thats darn near perfect.Thumbs Up
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If there is ever a time where we can all meet and do some shooting.  I will definitely bring this rifle. I believe that once you have squeezed off a round you will greatly appreciate the trigger pull off and the lack of any rifle lift or jump. The target stays in frame the whole time...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Zed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 29 2020 at 10:59am
For Service rifle competitions here in France; we need to keep the trigger above 1.75 kg pull; that's about just over 3lbs 13 oz.

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I doubt that I will ever enter any competition due to the issues I had last March.  I compete against myself if that makes any sense to you. I will always entertain the offer of a one on one match though. I do not believe that my rifle would even qualify as a service rifle seeing as how it has been converted from its former configuration...
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It makes perfect sense. We all need to beat our own scores to improve.
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I’ve thought about running a virtual match if there was any interest from our forum members.  The problem is getting everyone to use the same targets at the same range.  If nothing else, it might encourage some to get out and shoot your LE. 

Those of you in the UK and Europe (and probably AU and NZ) may only have targets stands at at 100 and 200 meters.  Most ranges in the US will have targets at 100 and 200 yards (and beyond at some ranges).

Targets are also different, the most common in the US being the NRA Short Range (SR) target for 200 yards, and the SR-1 target reduced for 100 yards.  There are other reduced targets that are more challenging like the MR 31, the NRA Medium Range Target reduced for 100 yards.  You can get all of these targets and more from the American Target Company.

For a strictly fun match on a target that is easy to score well on would be the SR-1 target at 100 yards.  Shoot 10 shots prone, no support under rifle.  Service sights only.  Those who want to shoot scope or off the bench we could have an “unlimited class”.   




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I tryed to get a some guy's to do that, on another site
With Enfield rifle's. Shooting at the NRA woodchuck target, I sent the targets to anyone that wanted them.didn't get very far,so then I came up with my make your own woodchuck target, and have fun doing it.
Just show us your target. And let us know how many yards you posted it. Again this was just to have fun
And get those rifles out to the range.
That didn't get anywhere still have some targets and my official rules sheet.
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Klondike, I’m not surprised by that, and is what I was expecting. 

A few of us on this forum are competitive by nature, others here are strictly collectors, others are hunters.  To each his own I say.  

I am one who has a interest in old military rifles, and I also enjoy competitive shooting.  What really interests me is competitive shooting with old military rifles.  

It is competition that drives us to improve.  You can do only so much by competing with yourself, but, like playing chess with yourself, it becomes rather lonesome after a while.   I enjoy shooting matches to meet up with people who have similar interests and we learn from each other.  Shooting in matches with a large number of competitors is entirely different than shooting alone against yourself. For me it is anyway...


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My idea was first and foremost , to get guys to take their rifles out of the house and shoot them, have some fun, the guys that are competitive, can get as serious about this as they like,
Those guys were to send there targets to one guy to have them official scord, all by the same man.
But I didn't want to leave anyone out. There wasn't any big prize, other than bragging rights for Top Gun.
Could someone cheat, ofcourse, they could take there battery drill with a drill bit of 311 dia. And make the tightest group you ever seen.
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Or, post the target at 25 yards and say it was at 100.  Well, for those that do that, perhaps it makes them feel important.

The thing with an “official” match, it’s not so easy to cheat and we all shoot in practically the same conditions.  We all have good days and not so good days.  I only win matches when I have a good day and my best shooting buds have bad days :-) 


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There are several online (& so international) sites with a HUGE variety of "print them at home" targets on 8 1/2X 11" paper. The targets aren't the problem ever. Its the shooters.
They would rather talk about it than do it (present company excepted).

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Got a chuckle out of that Sham.  I think you are right on this!  

Oh well, I’ll continue to participate in the matches, it’s what makes me tick.  But, I would be honored to meet forum members such as yourself in person and shoot a friendly match.  

It would be a sight to behold to see a firing line of 20 or 30 Lee Enfield shooters.  My “Home Range” can handle 54 shooters on the line at the same time...200, 300 and 600 yards without having to move or even post a target.  All electronic.  
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britrifles, it would be an honor to shoot along side you at your preferred range with the fancy electronics.
My range uses paper SR-1supplied targets with wooden frames. I use 12"×18" Dirty Bird Shoot N See targets because of the high visibility Red centers. I was told that the SR-1 target the range uses is not correct in size however, shown here in comparison to my 12x18 store bought target. I do not shoot past 200 yards so the validity of the target is not of importance to me so long as I can get the shots in the black.

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Gossic, perhaps we will be able to arrange a meeting some day.  If you ever find yourself traveling East and have time to stop in Talladega, please let me know, I will be there.  I too would be honored to spend a day on the range with such an outstanding builder of rifles and a remarkable shooter as you.  

That SR-1 target looks right to me.  If you measure the x, 10 and 9 ring diameters, they should be:  1.35 inches, 3.35 inches and 6.35 inches respectively.  These are the “official” dimensions of the NRA Military Short Roange (reduced to 100 yards) Target. 

The MR-31 (600 yard MR target reduced to 100 yards) is more challenging: 0.75” X ring, 1.75” 10 ring and 2.75” 9 ring.  In modern Service Rifle matches, prone slow fire is shot at 600 yards with a 12 inch diameter 10 ring. Reducing the MR target down to 100 yards results in a 10 ring only 1.75 inches to account for the diameter of a .30 cal bullet.  I know, sounds confusing, but at 600 yards, theoretically, a center to center spacing of 12.30 inches could score a 100 points (a bullet hole touching the score ring counts for the higher value).  So, the 600 yard MR 10 ring reduced at 100 yards is calculated by 12.3/6 - .3 = 1.75.  



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If you want to hold a virtual match I’d be interested in competing. It would give me an excuse to try to develop a match load or at the very least allow me to see what my hunting loads are capable of.
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