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    Posted: January 18 2024 at 7:27am
Just ordered 8 lbs of N140 at $330 and 8 lbs Varget at $440.  That’s the most I’ve ever paid for Varget.  VV comes from Finland and Varget from AU.  

You guys in Australia, how much to you pay for ADI AR 2208? I know that’s a long way to ship powder half way around the world to the US, but a $100 premium for ADI powder seems like a lot. 

I miss the days of $130 for an 8 lb jug of powder…and I thought that was expensive!


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Originally posted by britrifles britrifles wrote:

Just ordered 8 lbs of N140 at $330

Geoff, 8lbs of N140 is currently $442 (£348) over here...when you can get it in 8 lb containers which isn't that often.
I lt tubs are available at $147 (£116).  
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote paddyofurniture Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2024 at 1:38pm
Looks like the States side prices are better.
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Mick, that’s pricy if you have to buy the N140 in 1 lb bottles! 

I now regret not buying two 8 lb jugs. I’ve got the better part of one jug left, plus one on the way. I currently only use N140 for the .223 Service Rifle 600 yard line load with 80 grain MatchKing, goes together just like peas and carrots. I’m using H4895 with 69 grain SMK for the short line (200x and 300x). Not seen any H4895 available in the US in a while now. 







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$100/lb + tax(13%) last time I checked, said nope aint worth it. 3031 is currently $75/lb.
These are local prices.
I`ve stopped buying powder, can no longer afford the luxury.
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In Italy it is 160/170 euro for 1kg of N140, it is almost 670 USD for a 8lbs can
You are still lucky guys
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote britrifles Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2024 at 3:15pm
Wow! It’s almost like there is a plan to price us all out of this sport….
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For sure!
I know that is OT, gun owners and shooters are not the cool guys anymore
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I know this is an old post but I am interested to see current US prices.

AR2208 / Varget is currently $140 AUD for 1kg or $430 AUD for 4kg

Equals to about $92 USD for 2.2lb and $280 USD for 8.8lb respectively.

Dario is correct, there is an international push to take guns away from the general public.  Here, they are talking about limiting us to 10 firearms for competition/recreational shooting.  Fortunately, they are not looking to limit those on our collectors licenses but those are not permitted to be shot.
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I`d take limits, Canadas plan is total ban.
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Originally posted by Mayhem Mayhem wrote:

I know this is an old post but I am interested to see current US prices.

AR2208 / Varget is currently $140 AUD for 1kg or $430 AUD for 4kg

Equals to about $92 USD for 2.2lb and $280 USD for 8.8lb respectively.


Not an old post, I just sent this out today, so this is the current US prices on Varget.

Retail AR2208 prices in AU are $280 USD for 8.8 lbs, much less than here in the US. So Hodgdon has a significant markup on Varget as its retails here for $440 for 8 lbs. There is shipping and repackaging costs, but Hodgdon likely purchases the powder in bulk from ADI at half the retail price in AU, perhaps $20/lb, $160 for 8 lbs. Then it passes thru multiple hands to get to the retail US market, all ratchet up the cost. Just speculating here…






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they are indeed high these days , had someone give me a pound of unique last fall in exchange for some bullets [about 50+] i had laying about , thought i came out pretty good 
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I’m sure some of this unavailability and high price problems we face is due to the large demands put on the powder suppliers from the government.  Millions, if not approaching billions, of rounds of small arms ammunition is being consumed in the Ukraine.  I can live with that, but what concerns me is the concerted efforts by some in the government to price ammunition and reloading components so high that we can no longer afford to shoot.  


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I thought I read 2018 somewhere and just realised I was looking when you joined the forum!
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I've just read that Finland is to pause production of ammunition for Ukraine due to strike action at some of it's factories which include the Vihtavuori nitrocellulose plant.
The reason behind the strikes is said to be proposed labor reforms by the Finnish government.

If it wasn't difficult or pricey enough to buy N140 in the first place...
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Hodgdon has Varget in stock: 1 lb. $62.71 8 lb. jug $437.91 and that doesn't include $51.73 shipping or $36.12 tax for a total of $530.03 for one 8 lb. jug!!!!!!
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